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To: marc costanzo

So the lie is "enjoyed" versus "enjoying?"


2 posted on 06/17/2006 8:46:56 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: KJC1; ahayes

The 'LIE' is that NewsWeek implies that Ann Coulter said to the effect that 9/11 Widows in general were guilty of acting like media whores and opportunizing on their husbands deaths . . .

Ann Coulter was only describing these four Jersey Girls !


4 posted on 06/17/2006 8:50:34 AM PDT by marc costanzo
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To: KJC1

No, the lie is that Coulter did not say that 9/11 widows enjoyed their husband's deaths. She was talking about the Jersey Girls specifically in her book.


7 posted on 06/17/2006 8:52:33 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: KJC1
THE LIE IS:
Saying that the 9/11 Widows enjoyed their husbands deaths. Ann was actually speaking of these women (The Jersey Girls). Not all 9/11 widows. She went on to say that their were several 9/11 widows that supported Bush.

I hope this helps those not initiated in the art of polemics.
13 posted on 06/17/2006 8:56:31 AM PDT by One_who_hopes_to_know
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To: KJC1

'9/11 widows enjoyed their [husbands'] deaths



They imply ALL 9/11 widows vs. the 4 NJ widows. Just another Newsweek deception.

Her personal observation when she said, I've never seen people enjoying their husband's deaths so much."


21 posted on 06/17/2006 8:59:52 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: KJC1
So the lie is "enjoyed" versus "enjoying?"

Where's the lie?

Read the preceding sentence prior the "enjoying their husbands deaths" part -

These broads are millionaires, lionized on TV and in articles about them, reveling in their status as celebrities and stalked by grief-arazzies.

Are these widows not somehow benefitting from their husband's deaths? Ann makes a valid point here.

25 posted on 06/17/2006 9:04:46 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (PENCE IMMIGRATION PLAN BASHERS WILL BE OBLITERATED)
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To: KJC1
So the lie is "enjoyed" versus "enjoying?"

No.
The lie is "911 widows", vs "Jersey girls". It's not rocket science.

Reading comprehension 101 vs agenda criticism.

Do you have any idea how many 911 widows were created on 911?

Hint: it was more than four.

29 posted on 06/17/2006 9:05:26 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: KJC1
So the lie is "enjoyed" versus "enjoying?"

No, the lie was they implied she said ALL 9/11 widows enjoyed their husbands death. This lie has been splashed all over the media in an attempt to make Ann look like a real jerk. What she said was 4 specific widows seemed to enjoy their husbands death. She was dead on, and still is, about the jersy cow witches, er, widows. She praised the other widows and wondered why the other widows were not feted, praised and splashed all over the media. Try reading more and soon you will obtain the skill to understand what you read, it isn't hard, really!

If you reach that level of skill you won't have people like me thinking you are an idiot or a liberal!

37 posted on 06/17/2006 9:10:18 AM PDT by calex59 (The '86 amnesty put us in the toilet, now the senate wants to flush it!)
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To: KJC1

JUst the Jersey "girls" who are using their husbands death to get into the media limelight on not just 9/11 but MANY media issues (gay marriage)

Ann said THOSE widows, NOT all 9-11 WIDOWS. Important distinction, the media knows this and purposely lies. You must read more closely.


41 posted on 06/17/2006 9:13:52 AM PDT by Libertina (Our troops are INNOCENT until proven otherwise. I'll take their word over the enemy's any day!)
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To: KJC1
As my 2nd grade teacher once said; "read ALL the words."
62 posted on 06/17/2006 9:25:14 AM PDT by VRWCtaz (Conservatism is about promoting opportunity and Liberalism is about controlling outcome.)
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To: KJC1
So the lie is "enjoyed" versus "enjoying?"

If someone continues a particular behavior, it must be that there is some reward fro them in doing so.

Did the "Jersey Girls" enjoy the deaths of their husbands, No. Did they their celebrity victim to appoint themselves as THE spokepeople for the 911 families, Yes. That and they went overtly political.

And their celebrity and exposure grew because the left and the media were so willing to push them out front. It wasn't that the 911 Commission filled a total void, there were investigations. And the 911 Commission was flawed the second Jamie Gorelick sat her ass in a chair on the wrong side of the table. And it was oh so political by way of Kerrey and Hamiltion playing games. Both demended a Presidential sit down and claimed it to be oh so necessary, yet both failed to stay for the whole time. One went to a fundraising meeting and the other to introduce a lunch speaker. Hey Kerrey and hamilton, did't you believe your own BS? Next time at least act as if you do.

One thing I noticed long before 911 about relatives of victims was how the media and Hollywood made saints out of them to make a buck off of them. The relative of a victim becomes a tireless underdog crusader, who ultimately wins and it becomes a rich and rewarding career. I'm not saying John Walsh planned it, but he's an example. Watch a few Lifetime movies and you'll recognize the pattern.

75 posted on 06/17/2006 9:37:46 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Liberals saying "We Support The Troops" is like OJ looking for the real killers.)
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To: KJC1; All

the lie is the willful ignorance of context, and the slander by semantics.


106 posted on 06/17/2006 10:03:54 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (if you're human, act like it.)
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To: KJC1
So the lie is "enjoyed" versus "enjoying?"

No...drank the MSM Kool-Aid, did you?

148 posted on 06/17/2006 11:38:20 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: KJC1
en·joy Audio pronunciation of "enjoy" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-joi)
v. en·joyed, en·joy·ing, en·joys
v. tr.

1. To receive pleasure or satisfaction from.
2. To have the use or benefit of: enjoys good health.

Read definition two. It fits perfectly. Since she wrote "enjoying" rather than "enjoyed," her sentence refers to what they are doing in the present as opposed to being happy about their husbands deaths that occurred in the past.

The celebrity, power and wealth they now ENJOY are the fruits of their husbands deaths. I'd say she got it exactly right.
152 posted on 06/17/2006 11:45:51 AM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: KJC1

The lie is she 9/11 widows as a whole and not a group of four that, well, seem to be enjoying their husbands' deaths.


196 posted on 06/17/2006 12:53:18 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: KJC1
So the lie is "enjoyed" versus "enjoying?"

Some of us survive Publik Skooling, some don't.

Not counting the 1st lie lumping all 9/11 widows(ers) with the Jersey Girls:

"Enjoyed" is PAST TENSE. It also implies (through association) that they enjoyed the results of the event AT THAT TIME. This is NOT what Ann said.

Enjoying is PESENT TENSE. It accurately states that the subject at hand (the Jersey Girls) are currently enjoying their status as 9/11 widows (with the $ and the attention and the ability to psread their anti-American views).

I hope this helps.

265 posted on 06/18/2006 2:05:20 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (The Left created, embraces and feeds "The Culture of Hate." Make it part of the political lexicon!)
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