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Marine Corps unshackles troops under investigation
NCTimes.com ^ | 06/16/2006 | By DAVID STERRETT

Posted on 06/17/2006 6:23:45 AM PDT by oxcart

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To: oxcart
But Maj. Jeff Nyhart at Pendleton said the change had nothing to do with the complaints from attorneys and family members.

Maybe not, but the bad publicity from Hannity, Savage, Levin, etc., who reach multiple millions of listeners, and the untold number of blogs and websites that are following the treatment of these detainees, doesn't shed a good light on the procedures of the Marine Corps.

Per another article, however, these men still have not been charged with anything. Where is their due process rights? Why were they even held in maximum confinement, and now medium confinment, when they haven't even officially been charged?
41 posted on 06/17/2006 8:24:02 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Non-Sequitur

Okay, I'm late to this story, but I still don't understand much about it.

Who made these charges? Is there any evidence? Have the people making the charges a history that we know of? Or an agenda?

What reason would the marines have for kidnapping and killing this man? What did he do and what did they want from him?

Or is a there a good source for finding out more info.


42 posted on 06/17/2006 8:25:03 AM PDT by altura (Bushbot No. 1 - get in line.)
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To: oxcart

Oh, and one other point --- Hannity specifically asked VP Cheney about their treatment on Thursday in a live radio interview. Cheney apparently wasn't aware of the situation.

[Curiously, on Friday, the men's status changed. Co-inkie-dink?]


43 posted on 06/17/2006 8:26:39 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: oxcart

Fifth Column Johnny and the anti-American media are going to have to do a lot of crow eating when the real story comes out.


44 posted on 06/17/2006 8:32:18 AM PDT by oneofmany (Freepin' for Vengeance)
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To: altura
Who made these charges? Is there any evidence? Have the people making the charges a history that we know of? Or an agenda?

There is a sufficient amount of evidence from a variety of sources to warrant an investigation by the Marine Corps brass. That investigation is apparently winding up. Based on their conclusions either charges will be filed or the Marines will be freed.

What reason would the marines have for kidnapping and killing this man? What did he do and what did they want from him?

I have no idea. If the Marine Corps believes that there is enough evidence to justify charges and a trial then I assume that information will come out during the course of it.

Or is a there a good source for finding out more info.

The media (chuckle, snort).

45 posted on 06/17/2006 8:36:07 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Logical me
Where in the heck did you hear this? Sounds like another slime ball MSM piece of lying crap.

That is the jist of what they have been accused of.

46 posted on 06/17/2006 8:36:54 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Thombo2

There are levels of restriction, at least it was so when I was in the Army. Restricted to Base, Restricted to Quarters, Restricted to Compound.. etc etc.


47 posted on 06/17/2006 8:39:15 AM PDT by SCALEMAN
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To: CheneyChick
Guilty until proven innocent?

IIRC, I believe that's the way the UCMJ works.

48 posted on 06/17/2006 8:48:23 AM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: oh8eleven
IF frogs had wings they wouldn't land on their @ss every time they jumped.

I like that one! Or in Dan Rather's words, "If a frog had side pockets, he'd carry a handgun".

49 posted on 06/17/2006 8:50:41 AM PDT by lesser_satan (EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
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To: JLS

----BTW, this whole thing smacks of some nut base commander or officer in charge of the brig going over the top. That is why someone up the chain of command changed their treatment relatively quickly.---

This is what I suspect as well...


50 posted on 06/17/2006 9:04:55 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: CheneyChick

Yep- we have to treat the terrorists we catch better than these service men are being treated - go figure....


51 posted on 06/17/2006 9:17:59 AM PDT by TheBattman (Islam (and liberalism)- the cult of a Cancer on Society)
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To: oxcart

Death Row inmates get better treatment. This is disgusting.


52 posted on 06/17/2006 9:56:42 AM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Memo to GOP: Don't ask me for any more money until you secure our Southern border.)
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To: altura

As Michael Savage pointed out, there is no evidence.

We cannot exhume the bodies because they are muslim and muslims do not want their dead defiled by "heathen".

No bodies, no evidence.

Free the marines and sailor!

Oh, and the accusation comes from a man who was recently arrested for being a terrorist! The enemy makes the accusation and our guys are immediately guilty.

What kind of war is this?!


53 posted on 06/17/2006 10:01:44 AM PDT by Prost1 (We can build a wall, we can evict - "Si, se puede!")
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To: oxcart

Savage brought this to light.


54 posted on 06/17/2006 11:46:07 AM PDT by Blue State Insurgent (English is a uniter, not a divider.)
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To: oxcart

I cannot believe the shabby treatment these heroes are getting...where is the evidence? All I've seen is hyperbole brought up in the media...and no sensible person believes that.

As citizens we deserve to see the evidence against these Marines! And while they are digging that up...let these men out!


55 posted on 06/17/2006 8:48:22 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121

While news on this entire episode is not forth-coming...if this does get to Marines deployed in Iraq and they realize what their leadership is doing...it'll have grave consequences. If ordered on a patrol....you might as well go out of the front gate of the compound and find a safe patch of desert and just sit there...so you won't find trouble and won't be possibly charged with a fake crime. I hate suggesting that but I don't care to be a pawn for a bunch of general's sitting at the pentagon or a bunch of politicans sitting in DC. If this is the state of our leadership...then this war is finished and we might as well pack up and go home...its not worth fighting over if innocent marines end up in shackles and treated like dirt by their own comrades.


56 posted on 06/17/2006 10:36:02 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Luigi Vasellini

Hannity receieved a phone call from one of these Marines father during his show.


57 posted on 06/18/2006 9:12:31 AM PDT by rocksblues (Liberals will stop at nothing.)
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To: oxcart

FReepers are watching the status of this case closely.


58 posted on 06/19/2006 8:52:41 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: victim soul

I think Michael Savage is outraged at pretty much everything.


59 posted on 06/19/2006 8:55:10 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (The plan was simple, like my brother-in-law Phil. But unlike Phil, this plan just might work.)
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To: ASA Vet
Well thank God, someone on Hannitys staff listens to Savage! Thank God Hannity had the fortitude to do the right thing and confront the Veep about this matter!

So when do the accusers get put in shackles?? Just to be fair!!

60 posted on 06/19/2006 8:58:03 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (I'd rather be carrying a shotgun with Dick, than riding shotgun with a Kennedyl!)
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