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Ann Coulter vs. Michael Moore
Newsmax ^ | 16 June 2006 | Humberto Fontova

Posted on 06/16/2006 5:05:55 PM PDT by ChessExpert

“As he turned to assault the next bunker an NVA machine gun opened up and he was mortally wounded. Captain Sosa-Camejo's valorous action and devotion to duty are in keeping with the highest traditions of the military service and reflect great credit upon himself, his unit, and the United States Army."

From his limousine Michael Moore sneers at this Cuban-American and his Band of Brothers as wimps and crybabies "with a yellow stripe down their backs."

Maybe I'm biased, but nothing – absolutely nothing – Ann Coulter has said about Murtha, Kerry or McClellan strikes me as remotely comparable in vileness, cowardice and rank stupidity as Michael Moore's blanket calumny against some of the bravest men of the 20th century.”

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To: ExDemSince92
"Took all of 5 seconds to find it. Google is your friend."

Although not directly involved in the Vietnam War, Canada was part of the International Control Commission (ICC) set up by the Geneva Conference in 1954. "Unlike Hungry and Poland, which supported North Vietnam," writes Colonel Harry G. Summers, Jr., in his Vietnam War Almanac, "Canada attempted to remain impartial. However, it provided economic assistance to South Vietnam." As a result of the Paris Peace Accords of 1973, the ICC was superseded by the International Commission of Control and Supervision (ICCS). Canada and Poland remained members, but India was replaced by Indonesia. "When it became apparent that the North Vietnamese had no intention of living up to the accords," says Summers, "Canada withdrew on July 31, 1973 and was replaced by Iran."

http://www.vwam.com/vets/allies/canadians.html

My point is only that the hand full of troops that Canada sent to Vietnam were not there to support the U.S. war effort, and anyone who tries to tell you that Canada took an active roll in that war on our side is either ignorant of the facts or has some other agenda.

261 posted on 06/17/2006 4:14:29 AM PDT by DJ Taylor (Once again our country is at war, and once again the Democrats have sided with our enemy.)
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To: JTN

Thanks for the links.

The proper repsonse by Ramsey would have been to say,"I've been misinterpreted."

When he says categorically that
"Coplon was a spy. In the 1990s, the government declassified intercepts of coded messages from the mid-1940s between Russian agents describing her in unmistakable terms."

it's preceded by "At the end of the book, the authors explain why it did not."

In other words, the view that Coplon is a spy is that of the authors. The closest Ramsey himself comes to saying she was a spy in his own voice is when he says
"It was true that the Coplon case — and those against Hiss and the Rosenbergs — stigmatized left-wing views. But the case was not about that. It was about spying, and the spying, the authors conclude, was real."

But even there it's quite difficult to see whether the statement is in his voice, or if he's still describing the point of view of the book's authors.

I also find it odd that he refers to McCarthyism as stigmatizing what he apparently calls "liberals" and I usually call "leftists". Is he rejecting the common left-liberal premise that McCarthyism set back the cause of anti-Communism?

Coulter isn't the first conservative Ramsey's attacked. For instance, here's his negative review of Michelle Malkin:

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/000559.htm
http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003515.htm

And here is his negative appraisal of George W. Bush: http://libertyunbound.com/archive/2003_05/ramsey-disconnect.html

A few thoughts: Ramsey is a good journalist, but he was over vague in his article about the book about Coplon. When you're ambiguous, expect to be misinterpreted. Also, Ramsey is NOT a conservative--- he is a libertarian, and he should not represent himself as a conservative.

Finally, Ann makes her case as a lawyer does--- she brings the kitchen sink. She does so patiently and rationally, but not without invective. I'll agree that the last is problematic-- but it is far outweighed by the fact that she is perhaps the most unashamedly conservative pundit in the world. Most of us walk on our tip-toes with respect to the left--- Ann proudly marches on them.


262 posted on 06/17/2006 6:51:13 AM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: JTN
[ It would be nice if we could just send Coulter and Moore off to some island where they can be alone with each other. Then they can lie and smear each other all they want and leave the rest of us alone. ]

What lie has Ann Coulter EVER published, said, or implied?..
Your post is a lie..

263 posted on 06/17/2006 7:01:11 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: JTN
You post gibberish, while your opponent is still baffled by your nonsense

You were SO 'baffled', even though my comment was sent to you and you replied - you state you didn't know WHO it was for. Where is the honest in that? And YOU are here calling Ann a liar?? One reply from you and it showed who the liar is.


You were 'baffled' only on HOW to reply. My post was a question to you on your need to control based on your post... She should tell the truth and make her case patiently, rationally and without invective.

Look at your own post. It is void of what YOU WANT from Ann. Try WANTING it in your own life first.
264 posted on 06/17/2006 7:01:37 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: JTN
So wheres the lie numbnutz.. A wealth of info was gained from KGB archives.. in both the Soviet Union and Eastern Germany..

McCarthy was a HERO as Ann Coulter said.. even before he was cruelly slandered.. Both FDR and Truman KNEW commies were in their administrations.. and did NOTHING.. Eleanor Roosevelt herself was either a commie dupe or implicit..

265 posted on 06/17/2006 7:09:19 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: ChessExpert

I have absolutely no doubt that being referred to as the Michael Moore of the Right drives Coulter up a wall. But hey, don't dish it out if you can't take it.


266 posted on 06/17/2006 7:16:16 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

referred to as the Michael Moore of the Right drives Coulter up a wall.


That's what shallow people think, void of truth. You see, Ann wears their contempt like a badge of honor. She's not driven anywhere - ONLY to #1, she's solid as a rock.

Go ANN! You certainly have divided the wheat from the chaff!


267 posted on 06/17/2006 7:39:30 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: ChessExpert

Beauty and the beast?


268 posted on 06/17/2006 7:42:39 AM PDT by DelphiUser ("You can lead a man to knowledge, but you can't make him think")
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

I loved Ann's line about not wanting attention.

She said if she'd wanted attention, she would have worn a little black dress and her hair long! Ha


269 posted on 06/17/2006 7:59:44 AM PDT by i_dont_chat (I defend the right to offend!)
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To: youngjim

Look, this is getting ridiculous. I will post my opinion of Ann's remarks, and so will everyone else. That is what I was doing on this thread until your buddy started insulting me, so to suggest I'm stalking him is false and absurd. Then you showed up to write mini-novels calling me "mendacious." Oh brother.

There is no point in discussing this issue further because I don't care enough to bother. I will continue to discuss Ann's comments, though. There are probably many other topics we would agree on, just not this one.


270 posted on 06/17/2006 8:10:37 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: mjolnir

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003515.htm

. . .

These people are not "internees" - they are under no suspicion for the most part and were moved largely because we felt we could not control our own white citizen [sic] in California.

Looks like typical bureaucratic CYA boilerplate trying to use alleged California racism as a scapegoat.

271 posted on 06/17/2006 8:24:58 AM PDT by Milhous (Twixt truth and madness lies but a sliver of a stream.)
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To: JTN
That depends on who is buying them. How many of Ann's books do you think are not being sold to the already convinced. I bet it's a relatively small number

Just the mere fact she is number one gets people's attention whether you're a fan or not. You get invited onto TV shows based on you being number one, were you get to state your views to the great unwashed. It's about exposure.

The greater her book sales the greater her following.

That's a good thing.


272 posted on 06/17/2006 8:37:16 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan; ChessExpert

Yep! As fighter against socialism, Ann is the closest thing to H.L. Mencken today, except that Ann is 1) hot 2) Ann defends our nation's heritage, principles and people against secularism, while Mencken defended secularism against our nation's heritage, principles and people.


273 posted on 06/17/2006 8:44:51 AM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: Milhous

I think Michelle explains what was going on pretty well--- the author of the memo apprenetly wanted to justify why he was having so much food distibuted to the afore-mentioned Japanese Americans.

Incidentally, my impression is that Ken Masugi of the Claremont Institute, is, I think the most authoritative expert on this (as he is on more than one thing).

http://internmentarchives.com/showdoc.php?docid=00205&search_id=2749&pagenum=3


274 posted on 06/17/2006 8:51:39 AM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: mjolnir; All
It's somewhat rare to have a true conservative author who makes it to the top of the rat top ten and then has the tenacity to talk back to most any drive-by/msmer's who dares interview her. IMHO we need more Ann Coulters not fewer, I applaud what she does.
275 posted on 06/17/2006 9:09:36 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Support new Media, ticket drive-bys--America--Land of the Free because of the Brave)
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To: ChadGore
Who you gonna call when ya wanna bust a liberal?


276 posted on 06/17/2006 9:16:57 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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To: KJC1

"I will post my opinion of Ann's remarks, and so will everyone else. That is what I was doing on this thread until your buddy started insulting me..."

You posted a question (albeit to yourself) and I answered it.

Rather politely, in fact, given the imbecilic nature of the question.


277 posted on 06/17/2006 9:22:10 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: grey_whiskers
In that article, Ramsey self-identifies that he is "no liberal".

whiskers

Liberals deny they are liberals all the time. They know liberals have little credibility among normal folk so they pose as something else.

They're frauds.


278 posted on 06/17/2006 9:43:24 AM PDT by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("fake but accurate": NY Times)
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To: mjolnir
http://internmentarchives.com/showdoc.php?docid=00205&search_id=2749&pagenum=3

Whew! Masugi's phrase Irish-Americans initially caught my eye making me fear the worst (yet another public scolding for America's former Irish need not apply discrimination). Never fear! Instead Masugi merely observes "Irish-Americans have often been opposed to American foreign policy, which has often alined [sic] itself with the British."

279 posted on 06/17/2006 9:46:37 AM PDT by Milhous (Twixt truth and madness lies but a sliver of a stream.)
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To: Donald Rumsfeld Fan

LOL


280 posted on 06/17/2006 9:54:44 AM PDT by Milhous (Twixt truth and madness lies but a sliver of a stream.)
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