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Bush declines to meet with border officials
San Bernardino Sun ^ | 06/16/2006 | Sara A. Carter

Posted on 06/16/2006 10:41:38 AM PDT by Small-L

President Bush has refused to meet with border law-enforcement officials from Texas for a second time. His response to their request came in the form of a letter Monday, angering both lawmakers and sheriffs.

In fact, some Republican members of the House, upset by what they call the administration's seeming lack of concern for border security, are preparing to hold investigative hearings in San Diego and Laredo, Texas, early next month.

Members of the House Subcommittee on International Terrorism and Nonproliferation hope to expose serious security flaws that could potentially lead to terrorist attacks in the country, said Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas, who is a member of the panel and has pushed for the hearings.

"The next terrorist is not going to come in through (Transportation Security Administration) screening at Kennedy airport," Poe said. "We already have information that people from the Middle East have come through the border from Mexico. They assimilate in Mexico learning to speak Spanish and adopt customs and then they cross the border into the United States."

Poe requested the meeting for members of the Southwestern Sheriffs' Border Coalition a group that includes all 26 border-county sheriffs from California, New Mexico, Arizona and Texas. The sheriffs wanted to speak to the president about the increasing dangers in their communities and along the border.

"The president is the busiest man in the world but he needs to take the time to talk to the border sheriffs and learn what's happening in the real world from them," Poe said. "We can't understand why he refuses to meet with them."

In May, all of the Republican House members from Texas traveled to Washington to meet the president regarding border security. Bush did not meet with them, however, and former White House spokesman Scott McClellan was sent in his stead.

Poe said the White House letter dated Monday showed the disconnect between the administration and the American people who want the border secured.

"The president would appreciate the opportunity to visit with border sheriffs," said the White House letter written by La Rhonda M. Houston, deputy director of the Office of Appointments and Scheduling. "Regrettably, it will not be possible for us to arrange such a meeting. I know that you understand with the tremendous demands of the president's time, he must often miss special opportunities, as is the case this time."

Rick Glancey, spokesman for the sheriffs coalition, said its members are angry and disappointed in the president's response. Glancey said Bush's recent tour of the border with Border Patrol spokesmen did not reflect the reality of what locals live with every day.

"It's a slap in the face to the hardworking men and women on the front lines of rural America who every day engage in border-security issues," Glancey said. "He missed the opportunity to take off his White House cowboy boots and put some real cowboy boots on and walk in our shoes for a few minutes."

The border hearings will expose the truth to the American public and force the administration to take a serious look at the border, said Allan Knapp, Poe's legislative director.

Knapp and Poe have traveled twice to the border this year, spending time along barren stretches where they witnessed no security and numerous migrants crossing into the United States, they said.

"We need to expose the lack of border security before it is too late," Poe said. "We're fighting a war on terror in Iraq and we're winning, but we're losing our own border war. These hearings will be a necessary step in the right direction."

Andy Ramirez, chairman of the Chino-based Friends of the Border Patrol, said he has been called to testify before the panel in San Diego. Ramirez said he has turned in two years of Border Patrol documents and memos, which he will discuss before the committee.

"The president has basically pushed his whole administration's agenda toward the war on terror, yet he can't find the time to meet with law-enforcement leaders responsible for border security," Ramirez said. "It is appalling and outrageous that the war on terror and border security does not extend to the U.S. border."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
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To: MineralMan

SOOOOO what treaty overides Gualalupe Hidalgo?. And why is Bush so careful to avoid titling them as Treaties instead preferring to call them AGREEMENTS when they have all the criteria of Treaties. He must be really afraid of that Constitutional 2/3rds Senate ratification.


201 posted on 06/16/2006 1:15:28 PM PDT by tertiary01 (Soviet style debating tactics invented tinfoiling the opposition.)
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To: MineralMan
"I expect you're right about that. I do not expect George W. Bush to be very active as an elder statesman. I doubt we'll hear much at all from him after January 2009."

Kind of like the way Johnny Carson vanished after the final Tonight Show. I suspect you're right; Bush is, as was Carson, a private person who does not like the social whirl.
202 posted on 06/16/2006 1:16:09 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: DevSix
Perhaps it would have been nice, if on one of his trips to the border, the Pres. would have gone to some of the ranchers who have had to live the nightmare of not only fending off the hordes of illegal trespassers that wander thru their privately owned ranches 24/7, but also have had to contend with the total deaf ear of our own gov., not just currently, but for the past umpteen years.....both Dem. and Rep. administrations. I don't care which Party was or is in power, it's just plain wrong. Our gov. is to protect the rights of our citizens, PERIOD.

It's all well and good to defend the Pres. I voted for him twice and I couldn't be more supportive of his stand on fighting the terrorists. I back him 100%, but in my opinion,his attitude on our borders, north and south is plain pigheaded. Makes no sense at all to send troops half way around the world to fight war on terrorism and yet leave our borders open. That makes no sense at all....UNLESS you consider, the Pres. surely must have a different agenda that he really doesn't want the American people to know about just yet. Do you think that might be possible?
203 posted on 06/16/2006 1:17:36 PM PDT by Molly T. (`)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
I know some people who were Spanish but they just call themselves AMERICANS.

I know some women who sleep with men for money. Does that make all women whores?

Take a deep breath now. There are over 40 million people in the US who are of Latino heritage. The VAST majority of those people are no less American than the guy named Parrinelli who celebrates Columbus Day (very popular with Italians) or the guy named McCarville who celebrates St. Patrick's day. They are Itallian-Americans and Irish-Americans. I am not fond of people who use there heritage as a prime identifier, but truth be told, nearly all of us are descended from people who came from somewhere else. Generally, the more generations you are here, the more likely you are to identify with America and less likely to identify with your country of origin. I know 10th generation Hispanics who can barely understand any Spanish. I also know second generation Canadians who may look and talk like us, but who will go on an on about the wonders of the Great White North.

We are a melting pot. The operative word there is "melting." Little melts instantly. Somethings melt more slowly than others. Similarly some cultures assimilate faster than others. Depends as much on the heat under the pot as it does on the ingredients in the pot. I think the heat needs to be turned up a bit and those wishing to be Americans need to know that English is a requirement, love of our country is a requirement, and I would like to see some sort of service requirement imposed on those wishing to be naturalized. If they are young enough they should have to put in a couple of years with the armed services or National Guard. If they are older there is all sorts of community service which could help instill an appreciation for our country and culture.

Anyway, didn't mean to jump down your throat or anything, but please remember that someone could have been saying a similar thing about your family a couple of generations back...

204 posted on 06/16/2006 1:19:13 PM PDT by Crusher138
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To: tertiary01

"SOOOOO what treaty overides Gualalupe Hidalgo?"

You tell me. While you're doing that, suppose you tell me how Guadalupe Hidalgo is being breached? Yes, the border established by that treaty is porous, but that's a matter of law, not treaties. It's the feds' responsibility to enforce the border laws. If they're not doing that, then it's not really a treaty matter.

You may remember that Congress went right along with NAFTA. I haven't seen any serious calls for it to be abandoned. Too much money working there.

Money drives this nation, not politics. I see you're not from Texas. Go down there, sit in a country club bar somewhere near the border. You'll hear lots of talk about the Messicans and how they're ruining everything.

Then, follow one of the loudest of the complainers to his business the next day. Count the number of employees speaking Spanish.

Lots of folks say one thing and do something else. It's how it works. Money wins.


205 posted on 06/16/2006 1:20:14 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: Grendel9
The President is the Commander=in=Chief of the ARMED FORCES

A little off topic but, I always thought it was Commander and chief. "Commander in chief" just doesn't make sense.

206 posted on 06/16/2006 1:20:25 PM PDT by SealSeven (Moving at the speed of dark.... Even "nothing" takes up space.)
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To: Molly T.
"That makes no sense at all....UNLESS you consider, the Pres. surely must have a different agenda that he really doesn't want the American people to know about just yet. Do you think that might be possible?"

I don't think it's a matter of a hidden agenda; Bush is pro-business, and business pretty much wants to maintain the status-quo on porous borders. As for possible terrorist infiltration, Bush is apparently confident that this can be dealt with via other means. I am surprised how many conservatives expect Bush to act like Pat Buchanan; Bush never claimed to be Pat Buchanan.
207 posted on 06/16/2006 1:21:22 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: SealSeven

"A little off topic but, I always thought it was Commander and chief. "Commander in chief" just doesn't make sense."

Really? You thought wrongly. It is Commander in Chief in the Constitution. The phrase means the Chief Commander, the Head Honcho, the Guy in Charge.

The Constitution is an interesting document. It's well worth reading.


208 posted on 06/16/2006 1:22:50 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: Crusher138

re post 204 - Well said.


209 posted on 06/16/2006 1:23:27 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Steve_Seattle
I think many on the left have a hatred of Bush that runs so deep that philosophy has taken a backseat. Most of the so-called "Bush-Bashers" on FR like the man but strongly disagree with his policies on border security/immigration and/or government spending.

One interesting fact - virtually all the longest recent FR threads have been on immigration/border security.
210 posted on 06/16/2006 1:25:19 PM PDT by BW2221
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To: Wolfstar
WTH?

Just yesterday, ya'll were complaining that the Bush positive thread was being hi-jacked by FReepers who were against illegal immigration, and it wasn't going to turn into a bash Bush event.

So now, here you are..Can you say double standard? Not that I give a care..

sw

211 posted on 06/16/2006 1:27:25 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (Return to sender..address unknown. No such number, no such phone)
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To: MineralMan

My neighborhood is full of illegals. I had the pleasure of two of their Marxist parades in front of my house.

So would you rather spend your riches in Nigeria or the US? Money is useless if there is nowhere left that is stable like the US to spend it. You have hung yourself, and bought your own rope.


212 posted on 06/16/2006 1:27:50 PM PDT by tertiary01 (Soviet style debating tactics invented tinfoiling the opposition.)
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To: Steve_Seattle

"I am surprised how many conservatives expect Bush to act like Pat Buchanan; Bush never claimed to be Pat Buchanan."


Ain't it the truth. President Bush laid out his opinion on Mexican immigrants in his campaign in 2000. I, for one, had no illusions about where he stood on that. He has always been pro-NAFTA, just like his father.

Whining about him doing just what he said he would do, almost 6 years into his Presidency seems a little specious to me. We elected him as our President. We knew his positions. He remains our President, because we elected him to a second term.

There's a heckuva lot of calling him a "traitor" here on FR by some folks. Maybe they weren't paying attention back in 2000 or in 2004. He's doing just what he said he'd do all along.

If it hadn't have been for 9/11, we'd be further along in expanding the relationship between Mexico and the USA. The Iraq thingie kind of slowed things down.


213 posted on 06/16/2006 1:28:39 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: Bikers4Bush

"As someone else pointed out, Bush has plenty of time to meet with illegals at the diego garcia center but not those American citizens on the front line of our border war to the south."

Thank you. Why did W elect not to meet with the NAACP? Simple; they only wanted him there so they could launch into a fusillade of attacks on him which would be picked up by a liberal media.

Why doesn't he meet with this group? Because they only want him there to launch a series of attacks, which will be dutifully picked up and amplified by the liberal media.

That the NAACP is a bunch of socialists and these guys have a valid point is a separate matter! The *effect* of meeting with each would be to damage W AND the conservative cause in general. The libs do not care why conservatives can be targeted; they only care *that* conservatives can be targeted. Their goal isn't to elect "real" or "paleo" or "[insert your favorite phrase here]" conservatives; their goal is to elect Democrats.

That's why this tactic of demanding a meeting and petulantly griping when the demand isn't met is trashy; because it doesn't serve anyone's ends except the libs.

When conservatives believe they must argue against our President, we should fight like brothers, not like enemies.


214 posted on 06/16/2006 1:29:09 PM PDT by No.6 (www.fourthfightergroup.com)
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To: tertiary01

"So would you rather spend your riches in Nigeria or the US? Money is useless if there is nowhere left that is stable like the US to spend it. You have hung yourself, and bought your own rope.
"

I have? News to me.


215 posted on 06/16/2006 1:30:04 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: Crusher138
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1299642/posts

Above URL goes to my post "Looters of Mexico" posted
12 12 2004.
I was using old pesos!
216 posted on 06/16/2006 1:30:13 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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To: BW2221

Illegal immigration has never been a hot-button issue with me, despite my general respect for the rule of law. (All right, everyone, take your shots.) I guess, like Mineral Man, I can see that the powers-that-be - business, media, unions, the political parties, the military, educational institutions, many churches, law enforcement - are simply not going to allow a radical crackdown on illegal immigration. there will be a few things done around the edges of the issue, perhaps some minor reforms, but the problem will not go away. Now, if there's a major terrorist attack that can be attributed to open borders, there will be hell to pay, with both parties and the media pointing fingers every which way, as with the 9/11 commission. But the fact will be that NO ONE in a position of power did anything serious to stop it.


217 posted on 06/16/2006 1:31:41 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: MineralMan

You learn something new everyday. Article 2, section 2.
Thank you, Mr. Helper.


218 posted on 06/16/2006 1:32:55 PM PDT by SealSeven (Moving at the speed of dark.... Even "nothing" takes up space.)
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To: tertiary01

"So would you rather spend your riches in Nigeria or the US? Money is useless if there is nowhere left that is stable like the US to spend it. You have hung yourself, and bought your own rope.
"

Nigeria? Nah. There's nothing in Nigeria that's of use to me. I don't have a lot of riches in the first place, and I'll probably spend them all right here before I die. Nigeria? What's in Nigeria that I'd want?

But, what about that Treaty? What has been breached in that Treaty? I thought you were going to explain that to me. We were discussing the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, right? I thought that Treaty was with Mexico, not Nigeria.


219 posted on 06/16/2006 1:34:23 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: MineralMan
Just because people voted for Bush (twice in most cases) doesn't mean they agree with all his policies. It's simply that they found him preferable to Gore and Kerry. I don't necessarily agree with a drunk who beats his wife, but probably would have voted for him over Gore or Kerry. No, on second thought, that sounds like Ted Kennedy.

Those who disagree with some of his policies are working to stop them via the Congress. That's the American way. That's how it's prescribed in the Constitution, right MineralMan?
220 posted on 06/16/2006 1:36:05 PM PDT by BW2221
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