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Bush declines to meet with border officials
San Bernardino Sun ^ | 06/16/2006 | Sara A. Carter

Posted on 06/16/2006 10:41:38 AM PDT by Small-L

President Bush has refused to meet with border law-enforcement officials from Texas for a second time. His response to their request came in the form of a letter Monday, angering both lawmakers and sheriffs.

In fact, some Republican members of the House, upset by what they call the administration's seeming lack of concern for border security, are preparing to hold investigative hearings in San Diego and Laredo, Texas, early next month.

Members of the House Subcommittee on International Terrorism and Nonproliferation hope to expose serious security flaws that could potentially lead to terrorist attacks in the country, said Rep. Ted Poe, R-Texas, who is a member of the panel and has pushed for the hearings.

"The next terrorist is not going to come in through (Transportation Security Administration) screening at Kennedy airport," Poe said. "We already have information that people from the Middle East have come through the border from Mexico. They assimilate in Mexico learning to speak Spanish and adopt customs and then they cross the border into the United States."

Poe requested the meeting for members of the Southwestern Sheriffs' Border Coalition a group that includes all 26 border-county sheriffs from California, New Mexico, Arizona and Texas. The sheriffs wanted to speak to the president about the increasing dangers in their communities and along the border.

"The president is the busiest man in the world but he needs to take the time to talk to the border sheriffs and learn what's happening in the real world from them," Poe said. "We can't understand why he refuses to meet with them."

In May, all of the Republican House members from Texas traveled to Washington to meet the president regarding border security. Bush did not meet with them, however, and former White House spokesman Scott McClellan was sent in his stead.

Poe said the White House letter dated Monday showed the disconnect between the administration and the American people who want the border secured.

"The president would appreciate the opportunity to visit with border sheriffs," said the White House letter written by La Rhonda M. Houston, deputy director of the Office of Appointments and Scheduling. "Regrettably, it will not be possible for us to arrange such a meeting. I know that you understand with the tremendous demands of the president's time, he must often miss special opportunities, as is the case this time."

Rick Glancey, spokesman for the sheriffs coalition, said its members are angry and disappointed in the president's response. Glancey said Bush's recent tour of the border with Border Patrol spokesmen did not reflect the reality of what locals live with every day.

"It's a slap in the face to the hardworking men and women on the front lines of rural America who every day engage in border-security issues," Glancey said. "He missed the opportunity to take off his White House cowboy boots and put some real cowboy boots on and walk in our shoes for a few minutes."

The border hearings will expose the truth to the American public and force the administration to take a serious look at the border, said Allan Knapp, Poe's legislative director.

Knapp and Poe have traveled twice to the border this year, spending time along barren stretches where they witnessed no security and numerous migrants crossing into the United States, they said.

"We need to expose the lack of border security before it is too late," Poe said. "We're fighting a war on terror in Iraq and we're winning, but we're losing our own border war. These hearings will be a necessary step in the right direction."

Andy Ramirez, chairman of the Chino-based Friends of the Border Patrol, said he has been called to testify before the panel in San Diego. Ramirez said he has turned in two years of Border Patrol documents and memos, which he will discuss before the committee.

"The president has basically pushed his whole administration's agenda toward the war on terror, yet he can't find the time to meet with law-enforcement leaders responsible for border security," Ramirez said. "It is appalling and outrageous that the war on terror and border security does not extend to the U.S. border."


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Politics/Elections
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To: dirtboy
Condescend: to descend to a less formal or dignified level : to assume an air of superiority

You wrote: "There is a reason I hold my beliefs - because I believe them to be right. If someone convinces me otherwise, I change them. However, by any sane evaluation of history and politics, Bush is wrong on this issue."

And you call others condescending? Bwahahahahahaha...

Nice try, but no stogie. You got caught spinning.

The only thing spinning around here are the people who search every nook and cranny for some reason to revile President Bush at the drop of a hat.

You sound like a liberal with that moral-relativistic attitude.

Ah, the old cannard. It's either that or Bushbot. I just love how folks with your mindset simply must make everyone who disagrees with you on any given issue THE BAD GUY. Yep. Well I'm proud to be cast as THE BAD GUY in your world.

161 posted on 06/16/2006 12:42:42 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: Grendel9

If Bush were to send
SOLDIERS to the border, that could be
interpretted as an act of aggression by
the Mexican govt.

Who gives a CRAP what Mexico thinks? Obviously they are not our friends!


162 posted on 06/16/2006 12:44:01 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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To: Bikers4Bush
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one - I see the currently terribly flawed guest/temporary worker programs as an issue that must be reformed. I see the current 12 million illegals here as needed to be addressed (because mass deportation...or even relying on the local authorities to handle one's and twozies isn't a reasonable policy IMO).

Best regards,

163 posted on 06/16/2006 12:44:11 PM PDT by SevenMinusOne
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
So do you have something against all Latinos or just those here illegally?

There are "Spanish people" in American that have been here for generations who consider themselves as American as you. If you watch the video, you will see that he is talking to THEM.

I too, have no use for people who come here illegally. We need to close our borders, prosecute businesses that employ illegals, cut off social services to those here illegally, and watch them (the illegals) all go home. But painting all Latinos with the same CRIMINAL brush as you seem to be doing is reprehensible and such bigotry has no place in our society.
164 posted on 06/16/2006 12:44:21 PM PDT by Crusher138
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To: No.6
Yes, the tactics are similar to the left. In addition to the "if you don't meet with me" strategy, they also use the techniques of redefining terms, belligerence, and group pressure on individuals.

It is becoming obvious that not all of them are as sincerely interested in solving border security as much as they are in having the issue...and that itself is also a hallmark of the left.

165 posted on 06/16/2006 12:44:51 PM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Bikers4Bush
You're right, if I didn't fall into any of those categories I would be lying.

You'll have to do better than to slyly imply you are a WH insider. For one thing, no WH insider would have the time to spend lollygagging around here. No WH insider would be as hostile to this President as you clearly are, and still work for him -- at least no one that wasn't a A #1 hypocrite of the worst kind.

166 posted on 06/16/2006 12:45:14 PM PDT by Wolfstar (So tired of the straight line, and everywhere you turn, There's vultures and thieves at your back...)
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To: MineralMan

As I said before, we shall see.


167 posted on 06/16/2006 12:46:31 PM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: dirtboy
I agree. The next Presidential candidates for both parties may well not come from the current list of "viables."

The Democrats have a battle raging between the Clinton wing and the Siros wing of the party. Six months ago I thought Hillary Clinton was a shoe-in for the nomination. Now I'm not sure.

I can't see either Rudy or McCain making it through the primary process. Too many conservatives would work around the clock to stop them.
168 posted on 06/16/2006 12:46:38 PM PDT by BW2221
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To: dirtboy

"We're going to reach a tipping point eventually that will probably toss the Dems into a junk heap."

Or the GOP. Yes, it's a tossup, but I still expect that whoever is elected will sit smack dab in the center, within a certain range.

We aren't really very good in the USA at making big changes in our elected officials. We, or the majority of us, don't much like extremes, politically.

Look at where we are as we approach the 2006 elections. We're bickering over whether the DEMS or the GOP will have the majority after the election. Myself, I figure it won't make any more difference than it does now. The GOP is nominally in control now. Yet...what have they done?

Even here on FR, the polls are showing that Freepers would vote for a moderate Republican for President, and in a pretty wide majority, over any Democrat. Guess what? That's exactly who we'll have as the GOP candidate.

Same with Congress. There aren't a lot of firebrands on either side in incumbent seats, and not many firebrands on either sude running who stand a chance of election.

You expect changes. I expect more of the same. History is on my side.


169 posted on 06/16/2006 12:47:38 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: MineralMan

So the president can advocate and create unconstitutional policies even though he has taken the oath of office? Open Borders is not in our constitution and silly me, I expect my president to uphold the law regardeless of his personal preferences. Being as he is the CIC.


170 posted on 06/16/2006 12:48:21 PM PDT by tertiary01 (Soviet style debating tactics invented tinfoiling the opposition.)
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To: Wolfstar

Do you drive a Saturn? You sure sound like someone who drives a Saturn.


171 posted on 06/16/2006 12:49:00 PM PDT by BW2221
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To: wolfcreek

"Who gives a CRAP what Mexico thinks? Obviously they are not our friends!
"

Yes, yes...yet, do you really expect the President, either this one or the next, to send armed troops to the border. Don't be silly. There is too much, economically, at stake for that to happen.


172 posted on 06/16/2006 12:49:31 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: BW2221
The next Presidential candidates for both parties may well not come from the current list of "viables."

In high school, I always wondered who it was who decided who the "popular" people were, because many of the so-called "popular" people were widely disliked. Something similar seems to be going on with presidential candidates - somehow we all know who the "viable" candidates are, but the viable candidates never seem to be the first-choice candidates that people really want.
173 posted on 06/16/2006 12:50:51 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: Wolfstar
And you call others condescending? Bwahahahahahaha...

Relativist. I can see why you feel no shame with your spin.

I just love how folks with your mindset simply must make everyone who disagrees with you on any given issue THE BAD GUY.

No, most are just wrong, and I can deal with that. You, however, seen to just like to spew political spin, which is quite easy when you are a relativist.

174 posted on 06/16/2006 12:51:25 PM PDT by dirtboy (When Bush is on the same side as Ted the Swimmer on an issue, you know he's up to no good...)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Jeez...you can't even quote someone correctly when it is typed in. Your credibility is really dropping!

If I were a politician at, say, a St. Patrick's Day celebration and a little girl approached me and handed me an Irish flag, I might hold on to it for a photo op. This appears to be the same thing, only probably it is a Cinquo De Mayo event.

Are you just one of those people who gets their hackles up when it comes to people from a culture different from yours?
175 posted on 06/16/2006 12:51:41 PM PDT by Crusher138
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To: Wolfstar

I don't have to do better than anything Wolfstar nor will I be goaded into telling you how I come by some of the info I do just to satisfy your curiosity or anyone elses. You want to follow the stuff they publish on the website as though it were gospel be my guest. If you are so naive as to believe that they would actually pulbish the presidents each and every move ahead of time for all the world to see on a website that's your problem.

You are right about one thing though, I would never work for this WH.


176 posted on 06/16/2006 12:52:42 PM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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To: MineralMan
You expect changes. I expect more of the same. History is on my side.

Every now and then events conspire to shatter the status quo. Right now, the parties seem to be competing as to which one can provide the worst leadership for this country.

Recall that TR only became president because the GOP leadership thought making him Vice President would push him out of the way.

177 posted on 06/16/2006 12:54:20 PM PDT by dirtboy (When Bush is on the same side as Ted the Swimmer on an issue, you know he's up to no good...)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Some posters believe, just because a FReeper does not support the President on current S2611 immigration Shamnesty that were bashing Bush.

Shamnesty is wrong and I would be against it no matter who suggested it as an alternative to a bad no enforcement border policy.

I agree with
Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Bond (R-MO)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Burr (R-NC)
Byrd (D-WV)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lott (R-MS)
Nelson (D-NE)
Roberts (R-KS)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Federation for American Immigration Reform
Heritage Foundation
Numbers USA
that this legislation is a travesty for current citizens and future generations of this country.

Would you consider the above to be Bush Bashers just because they have a different opinion on Shamnesty than does the president?

Some of the weak faint of heart sisters on this forum need to understand that conservatives unlike liberals do not always march lock step with those in Washington.

Especially when the legislation they support is diametrically opposed to what the overwhelming majority of Americans want.

Because I do not support the President on S2611 Shamnesty does this mean I cannot also support him on the other 90% of legislation where we do agree?

I listened to the entire debate in the Senate and it made me sick how the Democrats along with the RINO’s sounded almost giddy as they crammed this travesty down the throat of America.
178 posted on 06/16/2006 12:55:30 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: tertiary01

"Open Borders is not in our constitution and silly me, I expect my president to uphold the law regardeless of his personal preferences. Being as he is the CIC.
"

Lots of things are not in our Constitution (it is properly capitalized, by the way). You know what is in the Constitution? The concept of treaties. Nothing in the Constitution says that we may not admit foreigners to work in our country. Nothing in the Constitution says that we may not form alliances with other nations for economic reasons.

I think, perhaps, it is time for you to actually read the document another time. That you do not personally like a proposed action does not mean that it is unconstitutional. You must actually read the document.

What is there is that the federal government is responsible for the borders. It is the federal government, then, that makes laws regarding who may cross those borders, and under what conditions. NAFTA, despite its flaws, is perfectly constitutional.

The Constitution says what the federal government may and may not do, but leaves room for just about everything that is part of the law. Treaties are the first step in opening the borders. If a treaty is properly created and ratified, then it is constitutional by definition.

Go read the Constitution, tertiary01. You seem not to be too familiar with it.


179 posted on 06/16/2006 12:55:33 PM PDT by MineralMan (non-evangelical atheist)
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To: Crusher138
I know some people who were Spanish but they just call themselves AMERICANS.
I have little use for people that are hyphenated Americans or call themselves names other than American.
180 posted on 06/16/2006 12:57:09 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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