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To: MACVSOG68
I simply can't put it any simpler, even for you. What does the issue of same sex monogamous couples with children have to do with pedophile priests?

The "pedophile priest" yellow brick road tangent you wish to take me on is one journey to OZ you can take alone.

The issue involved homosexual predator priests:

USCCB - The Nature and Scope of the Problem of Sexual Abuse of Minors by Catholic Priests and Deacons in the United States

The study results show overwhelming findings that objectively one must draw but only one legitimate conclusion -homosexual predation was the primary activity that the sexual abuse was evidenced...

Some argue that the homosexual acts were not homosexual because only children were physically or psychologically raped of their innocence -they have as yet no 'orientation' and or mature sexuality or that the subjective rainbow gender spectrum rather than the binary 'sex' is an appropriate sexual identifier (very similar to the abortion argument claiming a baby is but a lump of flesh)? Some argue that the homosexual acts were not done by homosexuals (as if homosexual activity that defines homosexuals somehow does not now define homosexuals)?

It is weird logic to ignore that which specifically differentiates those who suffer from the homosexual disorder that predisposes them to homosexual activity and or those that actually participate in the activity and argue that this has nothing to do with homosexuals and or homosexual activity?

Regardless the politically correct illogical argumentative gymnastics and contrived hoops that some may posit I jump through -I myself will remain standing on Terra firma --simply put, the discussion involves activity -the abuse a majority of which was homosexual -the study was objectively scientific -not subjectively politically correct -as such a homosexual act was categorized a homosexual act and same sex sexual activity was identified as such...

The homosexual disorder is objectively defined by a predisposition to the activity... Homosexual activity is objectively defined by the activity -not the cause -not the intent -not anything morally irrelevant... Homosexual activists may gnash their teeth all they want -the facts speak for themselves...

Some still choose to ignore the obvious -regardless, the ignorance and or denial in this area will be overcome in the Church -the only question is will secular society get a clue or will it continue with its head in the politically correct sands of moral relativism?

In summary, objectively as to the sexual abuse of children all that is known is the activity -objectively, the majority of activity was homosexual predation -period...

Small excerpt:

John Jay Study - Summary results: Characteristics of the incidents of alleged sexual abuse by priests (Adobe Acrobat PDF Document)

The study produced some important findings about the nature of child sexual abuse in the Catholic Church.

  • Unlike in the general population, more males than females were allegedly. In fact, there was a significant difference between genders, with four out of five alleged victims being male.

  • The majority of alleged victims were post-pubescent, with only a small percentage of priests receiving allegations of abusing young children.

  • The allegations of sexual abuse involved a variety of sexual acts, and most of the priests involved were alleged to have committed multiple acts per victim. Indeed, much of the sexual abuse reported involved serious sexual offenses.

  • According to the allegations of sexual abuse, the most frequent context of the sexual incidents occurred during a social event. Additionally, many of the priests with allegations of abuse socialized with the family of the alleged victim.

  • The most common place of occurrence was the residence of the priest though incidents of abuse allegedly occurred in a wide variety of locations.

I note again clearly that this study confirms what other also not overly publicized or widely known or acknowledged studies have found -homosexual predation...

Continuing to click the "pedophile priest" ruby red slippers of fallacy will not change my resolve in seeking an explanation to the issue I raised that you attempt to deflect from:


Now, back to the topic...

Again, feel free to stick your neck out and elaborate upon this statement YOU made in post #21 -this one right here:

But then again, I'm not sure what that has to do with same sex momogamous couples with children, which is what the Parker case is all about.

34 posted on 06/16/2006 11:30:28 AM PDT by DBeers (†)
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To: DBeers
Now, back to the topic...
Again, feel free to stick your neck out and elaborate upon this statement YOU made in post #21 -this one right here:
But then again, I'm not sure what that has to do with same sex momogamous couples with children, which is what the Parker case is all about.

DB, are you simply being obtuse or what? You are the one who wants to talk only about the subject of this thread. Now you somehow allege that Catholic priests are responsible for the attack on Jacob on the playground. That's quite a stretch, even for you. Priests have a problem, no doubt. But alleging a connection between the Catholic Church and the homosexual movement is beyond the pale.

BTW, if you really want to discuss this subject, let me know or start a new thread. I'd be happy to provide some links not necessarily from the Council of Bishops, in whose interest it would clearly be to link the pedophile priests to homosexuals for a double win. But why don't you just answer the question about what this has to do with the playground incident?

I know how important it is to you to link pedophiles to the average homosexual couple, but that dog don't hunt. Would you care to explain why almost all child pornography involves girls?

If I am following where you are going, I guess we better link pedophiles to heterosexual couples too, since a little bit of that goes on there too.

36 posted on 06/16/2006 11:42:48 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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