Posted on 06/16/2006 4:13:14 AM PDT by lexfreedom
Contrary to a statement released on June 14 by Brian Camenker of MassResistance, an altercation that involved David Parker's son at Lexington's Estabrook School was totally unrelated to his father's activism. Lexington C.A.R.E.S. views the accusations in the MassResistance press release as baseless, meaningless and without merit. This is nothing more than another publicity stunt by Brian Camenker.
Dr. Paul Ash, Lexington Superintendent of Schools, says, "The school department is conducting a thorough investigation. The safety of all children is our utmost concern." A statement is expected after the investigation is complete.
Staff and parents at Estabrook School have related the following account of what happened on May 17.
A classmate, who is a friend of Mr. Parker's son, was mad at him because he sat in someone else's seat at lunch. At recess, the boy went over and started punching him. Other children stood around and watched. The playground aide noticed a cluster of children and headed over. She was met half way by a girl who ran to get help. The aide soon arrived and broke up the fight between these two 7-year-olds. Mr. Parker's son indicated to the aide that he was not hurt and that he did not want to go to the nurse.
The classmate who started the fight was brought into the assistant principal's office to write a "think sheet". He had to write down what he did wrong, what he could have done differently and how he could make it up to his friend. He also missed two recesses and wrote an apology to Mr. Parker's son. Mr. Parker's son wrote back "that's OK. You can still be my friend."
That afternoon the teacher discussed the issue with the entire class using the Open Circle format. At that time both boys had their arms around each other and were friends again. The teacher called both sets of parents and everyone seemed to be satisfied with the outcome.
Mr. Parker's son subsequently went to the other boy's house for a play date. The Parkers never contacted anyone at the school including the principal, assistant principal, nurse or teacher to say their son had been injured or that they were dissatisfied with how things had been handled. They also never contacted the school superintendent or the police to say their son had been "assaulted".
The MassResistance press release also stated that editions of the Lexington Minuteman newspaper with front page stories related to the Parker case were being prominently displayed in the Estabrook School library. The Estabrook librarian has said that the Parkers had been to the school library looking for old copies of the Lexington Minuteman newspaper. She directed them to a pile of newspapers that were on a stand above the view of young children.
It is our understanding that these two boys are still friends, thanks to the quick intervention of the aide and the teacher, and that the Parkers never complained to the school about the incident. It's a shame that Brian Camenker would misrepresent this incident and try to further divide our community.
Background Mr. Parker was arrested at Estabrook School for trespassing in April 2005. He refused to leave the school at closing time after his demands to exclude his son from classroom materials and discussions involving families headed by same-gender parents were not met. The trespassing case was settled in October 2005. Mr. Parker was given one-year of pre-trial probation in a deal with prosecutors. He is currently a plaintiff in a lawsuit filed against the town, several town employees, and several elected officials.
And here I thought they were all pedophiles. I didn't realize the priests were homosexuals. But then again, I'm not sure what that has to do with same sex momogamous couples with children, which is what the Parker case is all about. But I do agree with you, the tactics of the Church all the way to the Vatican to protect the priests has left a terrible legacy that I know the Church is trying now to put behind it.
And you are so full of homo-promo talking-points. All the hatred I've felt in this case has come from one side--those persecuting Mr. Parker and insisting that his children be indoctrinated into their sex-cult.
Not sure what homo-promo (cute) talking points you are referring to. Is the truth a homo-promo talking point? And believe me sir, no one on their side can out-hate you.
Their agenda is liberal and corrupt, while Parker's is conservative and with merit.
The homosexual activists scheme to divert attention from the real issue by attempting to vilify David Parker's character and motives will fail just assuredly as the scheme has failed the dummiecrat party and all the leftist pet projects they attempt to hoist upon the people...
Take care.
Take a vacation from posting leftist propaganda.
Same-sex, not same-gender.
Feel free to stick your neck out and elaborate...
It's interesting that the fight was due to someone sitting in someone else's seat at lunch. In a progressive school with "circles" it sounds rather far-fetched that a student would attack another student over seating.
Note: The priests were attracted to the same sex.
Ah, so that distinguishes a bad lie from a good lie? Thanks for that clarification.
The homosexual activists scheme to divert attention from the real issue by attempting to vilify David Parker's character and motives will fail just assuredly as the scheme has failed the dummiecrat party and all the leftist pet projects they attempt to hoist upon the people...
I'm with ya there pardner! Let's keep the issue right on the article you originally posted. Is it true or not?
Take a vacation from posting leftist propaganda.
You'd miss me too much!
You just don't understand the rules of debate DB. I made a statement, and now it's your turn. The question was, "What does a bunch of pedophile priests have to do with whether Parker's child was dragged and beaten senseless in a well planned attack organized by adults". Now it's your turn to somehow explain that, since I didn't bring up the pedophile priests, you buddy did.
Again, feel free to stick your neck out and elaborate upon this statement YOU made...
Well, since they actually interviewed all of the principals in the case, I have to assume it's either the truth or so far fetched that it will be quite easy to tear apart. But I have seen first graders get into fights over nothing. But the main thing here is how different this story is than the original one. But would you have ignored your son being dragged away and beaten by several kids in a well planned attack prompted by adults? I doubt it.
Note: The priests were attracted to the same sex.
There are some interesting studies of those attracted to children which show that regardless of their sexual preference (homosexual or heterosexual), both seem attracted to both male and female children. So I'm not sure. But the main point I was making was in asking what this has to do with the issue of what happened on that playground? If it was nothing but a simple fistacuffs between two first graders, fine. The school probably handled it fine. If on the other hand Parker's son was dragged and beaten...etc, then the school mishandled it terribly, and so did Parker.
I simply can't put it any simpler, even for you. What does the issue of same sex monogamous couples with children have to do with pedophile priests? In fact, what does any of it have to do with whether or not Jacob was dragged and beaten by several children in a well planned attack prompted by adults? And you want me to elaborate. Perhaps I can if you or someone else here can answer that for me. If looking for the truth in the incident is sticking my neck out, so be it. It appears you will never be accused of sticking your neck out.
Very rarely do pedophiles switch sides although it seems to correspond to the same pct of bisexuals. The real strange one is the number of "seemingly" heterosexuals who end up molesting boys. They don't seem to molest girls as well.
In reality, homosexuality is extremely rare. Many of those who consider themselves homosexuals are actually bisexual. Elton John is one of them. He admits to still being attracted to women.
The "pedophile priest" yellow brick road tangent you wish to take me on is one journey to OZ you can take alone.
The issue involved homosexual predator priests:
The study results show overwhelming findings that objectively one must draw but only one legitimate conclusion -homosexual predation was the primary activity that the sexual abuse was evidenced...
Some argue that the homosexual acts were not homosexual because only children were physically or psychologically raped of their innocence -they have as yet no 'orientation' and or mature sexuality or that the subjective rainbow gender spectrum rather than the binary 'sex' is an appropriate sexual identifier (very similar to the abortion argument claiming a baby is but a lump of flesh)? Some argue that the homosexual acts were not done by homosexuals (as if homosexual activity that defines homosexuals somehow does not now define homosexuals)?
It is weird logic to ignore that which specifically differentiates those who suffer from the homosexual disorder that predisposes them to homosexual activity and or those that actually participate in the activity and argue that this has nothing to do with homosexuals and or homosexual activity?
Regardless the politically correct illogical argumentative gymnastics and contrived hoops that some may posit I jump through -I myself will remain standing on Terra firma --simply put, the discussion involves activity -the abuse a majority of which was homosexual -the study was objectively scientific -not subjectively politically correct -as such a homosexual act was categorized a homosexual act and same sex sexual activity was identified as such...
The homosexual disorder is objectively defined by a predisposition to the activity... Homosexual activity is objectively defined by the activity -not the cause -not the intent -not anything morally irrelevant... Homosexual activists may gnash their teeth all they want -the facts speak for themselves...
Some still choose to ignore the obvious -regardless, the ignorance and or denial in this area will be overcome in the Church -the only question is will secular society get a clue or will it continue with its head in the politically correct sands of moral relativism?
In summary, objectively as to the sexual abuse of children all that is known is the activity -objectively, the majority of activity was homosexual predation -period...
Small excerpt:
The study produced some important findings about the nature of child sexual abuse in the Catholic Church.
- Unlike in the general population, more males than females were allegedly. In fact, there was a significant difference between genders, with four out of five alleged victims being male.
- The majority of alleged victims were post-pubescent, with only a small percentage of priests receiving allegations of abusing young children.
- The allegations of sexual abuse involved a variety of sexual acts, and most of the priests involved were alleged to have committed multiple acts per victim. Indeed, much of the sexual abuse reported involved serious sexual offenses.
- According to the allegations of sexual abuse, the most frequent context of the sexual incidents occurred during a social event. Additionally, many of the priests with allegations of abuse socialized with the family of the alleged victim.
- The most common place of occurrence was the residence of the priest though incidents of abuse allegedly occurred in a wide variety of locations.
I note again clearly that this study confirms what other also not overly publicized or widely known or acknowledged studies have found -homosexual predation...
Continuing to click the "pedophile priest" ruby red slippers of fallacy will not change my resolve in seeking an explanation to the issue I raised that you attempt to deflect from:
Now, back to the topic...
Again, feel free to stick your neck out and elaborate upon this statement YOU made in post #21 -this one right here:
But then again, I'm not sure what that has to do with same sex momogamous couples with children, which is what the Parker case is all about.
I do have to say it's the bisexuals who are confusing. Maybe they have twice as much fun as all the rest of us.....
But seriously, from everything I have seen, pedophilia is the strangest of all, and doesn't appear related to confirmed homosexuals or heterosexuals. I've read that they are switch hitters with children, but maybe you're right. Maybe it's more the bi's than anyone. With pedophiles there's lots to learn about them, but I suspect few volunteers.
DB, are you simply being obtuse or what? You are the one who wants to talk only about the subject of this thread. Now you somehow allege that Catholic priests are responsible for the attack on Jacob on the playground. That's quite a stretch, even for you. Priests have a problem, no doubt. But alleging a connection between the Catholic Church and the homosexual movement is beyond the pale.
BTW, if you really want to discuss this subject, let me know or start a new thread. I'd be happy to provide some links not necessarily from the Council of Bishops, in whose interest it would clearly be to link the pedophile priests to homosexuals for a double win. But why don't you just answer the question about what this has to do with the playground incident?
I know how important it is to you to link pedophiles to the average homosexual couple, but that dog don't hunt. Would you care to explain why almost all child pornography involves girls?
If I am following where you are going, I guess we better link pedophiles to heterosexual couples too, since a little bit of that goes on there too.
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