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To: CIB-173RDABN
I do not like being accused of lying on FR.

My entire family is of voting age and every one of us voted for the president in both elections. As a matter of fact I was teaching in the Ukraine during the last election and spent $40 USD in shipping charges in order to make sure that my vote for President Bush arrived in time. The shipping cost was exceedingly high but that was what they charged me and I could have said "jump in a lake" but I didn't because I wanted my vote to count. It arrived in NH the day of the election and was counted, but NH went to Kerry anyway. Have you ever spent $40 to vote to make sure your vote counted for President Bush? Neither had I, but being a Vietnam Veteran, I wanted to do everything I could to make sure Kerry was NOT elected president.

I stated the qualifier to show how much the president is hurting his own base. While not running again, he does have the power to set policy direction and he is flat out wrong on illegal aliens, seemingly taking the same track with Iran as Clinton did when he "dealt with" North Korea and has not been taking a hard stand on genuine energy policy with the house and senate. All of this is going to have an impact on any perceived "momentum" because it is not going away.

I totally support the war and am thankful for the good news, but this is not enough to sustain momentum because it is only one facet of his presidency and most Americans are more affected by the issues listed above than they are by the war in Iraq, unless they have family members serving there, then that would of necessity take precedence.

144 posted on 06/15/2006 9:38:09 AM PDT by Jmouse007 (Convert, Slavery or Death = "Islam the Religion of Peace tm" "It's time to play Cowboys and Muslims")
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To: Jmouse007
I think a majority on FR would agree that the Prez's immigration policy is flawed and harmful. For those not inclined to make it their focus of concern, it's tiring to hear the same arguments from the same people presented in the same way.

For those who are "All immigration, all the time," you should be impressed that you've managed to alienate those who agree with you. That doesn't speak well for your prospects on persuading those who don't agree with you.

146 posted on 06/15/2006 9:43:54 AM PDT by gogeo (The /sarc tag is a form of training wheels for those unable to discern intellectual subtlety.)
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To: Jmouse007
C'mon J..........your post at the beginning of this thread read like a Rush seminar caller.

No one can be blamed for not believing your first sentence when it was followed by a tidal wave of hostility against the President.

And when you combine that with the fact that NOTHING you said was relevant to the President's great week (the SUBJECT of this thread), then you look even more suspect.

If you want people to think you're telling the truth, don't act like you're not.

147 posted on 06/15/2006 9:45:37 AM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraqi Liberation VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: Jmouse007

Ya da ya da ya! You can write and say anything you please. It may or may not be true.

I did not say you were lying, I just pointed out that it is a very common practice for those that do lie to start out the way you did.

As such, I discount all those that attempt to make a point that way. I suspect I am not the only one. I would suggest in the future you simply state your view with out the quailfier.


157 posted on 06/15/2006 10:31:07 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN
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To: Jmouse007
With the devout Christian background and purpose that you claim on your homepage, you obsessing over immigration strikes me as very, very odd. I would think you would be most concerned with the real moral issues of the day. Maybe hijack every thread with something like abortion. Although I disagree with the President on immigration, I believe he's trying to shape his policy in keeping with his Christian faith with makes him want to show true compassion. You claim to be this devout, dedicated servant of Jesus. Ok, what would Jesus do? I doubt he would approve of your message. I really doubt it big time. And the same goes for the Arabs. Try understanding Rev. 7:9-10.

Frankly to me, you sound like one of the Pharisees.

189 posted on 06/15/2006 12:10:45 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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