I travel with Conservative MEN too....isn't it great??? You were marvelous dahling - thank you thank you thank you, Dorothy!
Never surrender!
NordP
Posted on 06/14/2006 9:19:42 PM PDT by Cinnamon Girl
Jay Leno gives you a little notice, a little warning of sorts, before taping his show, that it just wouldn't be nice or appropriate to shout out stuff or boo or heckle any of the guests because, hey, everyone should be able to come and share their views. But even if a grungy, dreadlocked white kid in a Che t-shirt did decide to heckle Ann Coulter, there was a rather large group of Freepers, conservative/Republican activists and friends in the audience to overwhelm them.
But there was no heckling and very little by way of booing, except of course, when Jay read the passage from Ann's book in which she describes the self-serving "Jersey Girls." At that point, there were some hisses in the audience, but Ann plowed ahead, as she always does.
And some on the web seemed to be under the impression that Ann Coulter and the elderly George Carlin were going to "face off," but when has there ever been a political debate on the Jay Leno Show? Carlin came on, did his unfunny shtick, no one knew where the comedy was, and he sat down on the couch. Then Ann came on and got some strangely pointed questions from Jay, who seemed to want to please his leftist producers/writers without really knowing where he was going with the interview. He did ask Ann if it ever hurt her feelings when people criticize her, and she said "no."
Some things should go without saying but in case you weren't sure: yes, we cheered her loudly and often, yes, she wore a black sleeveless mini-dress, yes, George Carlin is an unfunny leftist. However, Carlin did not argue with Ann or treat her rudely. The only thing that indicated his feelings was when he grimaced a few times when she spoke about liberal men.
The musical guest was some chick from Scotland who stank, but had a mysterious message taped to her guitar which read: "THIS MACHINE KILLS FACISTS." Nobody seemed to know what this meant, but I did notice that at the end of the show she shook Carlin's hand, then Ann's, but then immediately focused a conversation on Carlin and didn't even glance at Ann again, as if she wasn't there.
After the show, we went to a restaurant across the street and Ann, ever gracious with her fans, joined the group for photos, book signings, and questions. Imagine, with her busy schedule promoting her book, that she would take the time to hang out with us. RonDog, who had orchestrated most everything on the Freeper side, was there, as was Doug from Upland, tame, Rockitz, rantblogger, Andrew Breitbart, and even a well known banned Freeper.
For the Page Six folks, it looked like Ann was sipping a strawberry daiquiri, carrying a Chanel bag, and her hair color looked beautiful. I asked her if, when she was chatting during the commercial breaks with George Carlin, if he was kind to her. She said he was actually quite nice, contrary to what some may have expected. But remember, this is Hollywood, and most "celebrities" when sober, fear public rejection (by way of booing, to their face.) Even Michael Moore toned down his act (in mixed company) after people booed his "Shame on you, Mr. Bush" speech at the Oscars. Or perhaps Carlin just isn't like that these days.
Thank you, Ann, for being so gracious, and to RonDog for getting hold of tickets for so many of us.
American folk-music hero and real-life Communist anti-American scumbag Woody Guthrie had that written on his guitar.
She's emulating him and clearly put that on her guitar to take a swipe at Coulter.
If she weren't ugly and talentless with frightening dental problems, KT Tunstall might have made a statement with that - but it was just pointless and derivative.
Thanks for the firsthand report!
In fairness, every moron out there knows who George Carlin is. Not all morons know who Ann Coulter is.
What he did last night was an updated version of what he's been doing for years - stringing together phrases he considers culturally relevant that contain some opposition to one another, like "I'm an alpha male on beta blockers."
No Smokehouse Restaurate. The location is embargoed (unless someone else has released it). :)
As a collection of words and phrases, his monologue was okay. As comedy, it was the same as his earlier stuff, just updated.
That's probably why I don't find it funny. I like my comics to come up with new material, instead of plugging new words into an old template. Carlin's getting lazy.
I saw it and Peter reported to me early in the morning. I said it at the FReeper Victory Brunch in 2001 and I'll repeat it: Hillary is Satan's daughter.
I thought she was talking about her guitar.
Since it's been used NINE TIMES in this thread, I move that we ban the use of "awesome" for 24 hours. (Not necessarily 24 business hours, mind you.)
The "machine" is the guitar, and the message is that the music will overcome the evil. It's not a particularly bad message, however in the hands of the performer last night it was a bit presumptuous.
Say what you will about Woodie, but at least he backed up his claim with passionate action for his (wrong) point of view.
Loved the show, glad you guys were there, you could tell Ann was glad to have the cheers, it strengthened her. You probably shocked those who were ready to boo, which was also good -- a lot of times a small "booing" contingent gives the audience the idea that it's OK to be uncivil.
I've always liked George Carlin, and I liked him tonight. Of course, my most extensive esposure wasn't with his comedy, but when he did a stint on Thomas the Tank Engine, which I watched incessantly with my children.
I know he prepared his quip about "moving to the right", but it was a funny and civil way for him to make his point.
When Ann's book first hit, I was critical of her comments about the Jersey Girls. But I've come around -- she managed to draw the fire, get them out, and make her point through the controversy.
It didn't hurt when Zarqawi got killed and Berg's dad came out to talk about how bad it was that our government killed the man who beheaded his child -- because he was the perfect example of what she was talking about, and in that moment everybody saw clearly.
Last year I got the most hate mail I ever got for a column, when I contrasted Cindy Sheehan's statements about the president from right after her meeting with him, and a year later, and said one of the two was a lie. One woman said someone should push me under a bus for attacking a woman who lost her son.
How ya' doin? Thanks for the ping!
I disagree about Limbaugh. He isn't popular because he's a great speaker and debater, but because it's hard to argue against the truth. I'm not dissing him, I'm just saying that if he had to defend liberal talking points he wouldn't be very effective.
I travel with Conservative MEN too....isn't it great??? You were marvelous dahling - thank you thank you thank you, Dorothy!
Never surrender!
NordP
Lock and Load - great job!
That was fantastic. I can't believe how loud you were. Interestingly, I watched the show in bed with my headphones on, and the closed captioning was on, and when there were loud cheers for Ann it said [light clapping] and when Jay made the jersey girl reference it read [loud booing] and I couldn't even hear it. Not once did it read [loud cheering] when it was almost deafening in the headphones. I think the CC transcripter is a lefty.
Carlin has become such a curmudgeon he just isn't funny to me anymore. Especially after seeing him on the Bill Maher show on HBO and watching him seething with hatred whenever Bush was brought up, especially talking about Hurricane Katrina. His remark about moving to the right was darn funny though.
Ann was great, her self confidence and persona was so strong and clear that I'm sure the people out there who are somewhat unfamiliar with her were surprised she wasn't Elmira Gulch after all. Her remark about Dorothy and the house landing on the MSM was so funny I woke my wife up laughing.
The only thing I wished is that when Leno called her "Nasty" and questioned her civility she had brought up Carlin's remark about calling Barbara Bush "The Grey Douchebag", or Kanye West's asinine remark on national TV, or Belefonte calling our Pres. a terrorist, or Cynthia McKinney saying Bush intentionally let 9/11 happen, or Michael Moore making millions lying about a national tragedy etc etc, and asked Leno, "Were THEY being civil, because they do this every day and no one in the MSM seems to question THEIR civility?"
She did make that point in a way, but it could have been stronger. All in all I thought she was absolutely fantastic and judging from the lack of coverage on the MSM this morning she was indeed a big hit.
Is it my imagination or has this been a great week for the good guys?
Thanks for the report Cinnamon Girl.:)
Yeah, whenever I follow the links to DU I'm reminded how "victim"-centric they are. I can't imagine a freeper lasting 5 minutes on this board if they came in whining about how sad and sick and depressed they were about something a liberal had just done.
But I think she then said something about "except on your show, of course" to Jay (which may be when he said he was a fiscal conservative, I can't remember).
How did you manage THIS!!!Coulter-Carlin meeting ended up pretty tameMany had expected fireworks between the two
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BURBANK, Calif. (AP) - - (06/15/06)-- If you were expecting fireworks on the "Tonight Show" last night, you might be disappointed.
Jay Leno had on the original counter-culture comedian George Carlin and acid-tongued conservative Ann Coulter. But there was virtually no interaction between the two.Carlin was first, and noted it was his 140th time on the "Tonight Show," dating back to the Jack Paar days.
When Coulter came out, Carlin moved over on the couch. He said he never thought he'd have to move to the right.
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Coulter, Carlin and tame!I am IMPRESSED!!!How come they didn't mention the REST of us?!?
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