Posted on 06/14/2006 4:52:10 PM PDT by garbageseeker
I am posting this article because very few people know that the Catholic Church is going out of their way to make sure CIRA is the law of the land. The church has supported illegal immigration for many years and they have been active in getting CIRA passed. I also publishing this article in the hopes that the many Catholics who support the House of Representatives would know what their church is doing on the illegal immigration issue in the United States. I really do not think that Roman Catholics know the churches position on this matter.I know that there are many Catholics out there who support the "borders enforcement only" approach, not the approach the pro-illegal immigrant. approach our leaders has taken.
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"If people want to get rid of birthright citizenship for future children that is fine. That could be a possible solution."
It would be. The USCCB would oppose it.
The USCCB says they are not for 'open borders'. yet they opposed the HR4437 bill for including provisions for expedited removal, for holding border crossers (instead of catch-and-release, which undermines the whole enforcement effort). etc.
"I would have to think a guestworker program"
Okay as long as you dont make it a backdoor amnesty ... " some pathway to citizenship " ... amnesty is not okay, it will only make the problem worse.
"Deportation of the criminals that are here and those that commit serious crimes in the future, real border security, and real employee sanctions is the other side of the coin."
that above is all you need, and it is provided in HR4437.
Read the Liberation Theology. I have it posted. Maybe it holds the answers to some of your questions.
This a statement from current Pope when the he just a Cardinal heading up the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith under JOhn Paul II
INSTRUCTION ON CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE
"THEOLOGY OF LIBERATION"
http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19840806_theology-liberation_en.html
There are many other documents from the former Popehimself. The above and this debate has nothing to do with Marxism or liberation theolgy. If it did, I find it strange that the current POPE who wrote this statement in 84 has not even uttered a peep of concern.
Father Feeney was condemned by Pius XII, in 1946, for just such a position. I will post the letter from the Holy Office tomorrow.
What? John Paul II was a great foe of LIberation Theolgy. In fact he was the expert on it. HE condemmed it. This has nothing to do with Liberation Theolgy. Just because there is poor folks involved in some cases doesnt mean that every thing is liberation Theology
And you're wasting bandwidth bringing up a personal side issue. Let it rest.
Maybe someone should post the bullet points of the "theology of liberation."
You just called an infallible statement a falsity. Hey, that ain't my problem.
For garbageseeker to come on here, ranting at the bishops when he himself is in violation of Church law, is the height of hypocrisy.
This is a little off the subject, but can you show me some secret handshakes?
You really do need to learn some basic ecclesiology. And you need to learn what "in the Church" means so that you will understand Eugene's statement.
"Maybe someone should post the bullet points of the "theology of liberation.""
This book touches on it:
http://www.cmpage.org/betrayal/index.html
See:
http://www.cmpage.org/betrayal/chapt6.html
Put it in your own words. These long cut and pastes are the most annoying of all. There is too much cut and paste around here, and not enough brevity is the soul of wit in parsing matters down to the nub, in a way that communicates something tangible.
Let me guess: Pius XII was wrong.
Those are very good links
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