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1 posted on 06/14/2006 5:50:59 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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OK are we dealing with a politically correct euphemism here? Does "big" mean he was FAT? Or does "big" mean he was 6'8" 265 lbs?


2 posted on 06/14/2006 6:02:02 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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It is a shame, but they KNEW the risk going up.


3 posted on 06/14/2006 6:03:54 AM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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Note to self: Skip climbing Mt Everest.
4 posted on 06/14/2006 6:05:35 AM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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I just have to wonder, in this day and age, if the REAL reason they didn't attempt a rescue was because of the condition of his arms and legs. Perhaps they played God and decided that his "quality of life" wouldn't be "worth it" considering he would probably be a quadruple amputee if he survived.


6 posted on 06/14/2006 6:10:55 AM PDT by Reddy (America, Bless God!)
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People need to stop struggling with the concept that you can get yourself into a situation where others are physically incapable of getting you out. I'm not sure why this is so hard for personal responsibility hawks on this board to understand.

They couldn't rescue him. End of story.


15 posted on 06/14/2006 6:23:42 AM PDT by Taliesan
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To: Mad Dawgg; Paddlefish; Darkwolf377; kralcmot; abner; DoctorMichael; pepperdog; eddie willers; ...
New information in this account:

There was nearly EIGHT HOURS between the time the ascending climbers passed the man in trouble and the time he was actually noticed.

He was laying on top of an already dead body, making him harder to notice.

Temperature was cold and masks were fogged/frozen up, making vision difficult.

The Sherpa climbers were already helping two others in need.

The leader of the group "that walked right past a dying man" had participated in 15 other rescues.

And lastly, the man's legs and arms were frozen so badly he could not even stand on his own, making it impossible to get his body down the icy mountain slope.
16 posted on 06/14/2006 6:29:03 AM PDT by Mr. Brightside
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Unfortunately people die in the Himalaya, even at lesser altitudes and on more navigable terrain than the top of the 3rd Hilary Step.

Having been up to the Everest region, at a certain level of altitude and acclimatization every step becomes a fight and a struggle, and the paramount chores are (a) breathing and (b) putting one foot in front of the other. Guides - they struggle too - bear the additional burden of worrying about and assisting their clients.

And that's the bottom line here: the guides who are being accused had to make hard decisions about the survival of their clients versus the survival of a climber who was in near-death state.

By helping the stricken climber, they would also be paying much less attention to their own clients (at altitude, thinking is very sequential and it's a struggle to think clearly and carefully). It's pretty obvious to me that they put their clients first, which was the right thing to do (even if the clients didn't like it or understand it).


17 posted on 06/14/2006 6:32:34 AM PDT by angkor
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Note to self:

Next time I see someone flipped over in a vehicle in a ditch, struggling to get out--conclude that's what they get since they knew the risks of driving.

Or when someone is drowning, conclude they knew the risks of swimming before they got in the water.


29 posted on 06/14/2006 6:57:20 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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It took them a month to come up with this excuse. You'd think it would have been the first thing they said.


44 posted on 06/14/2006 9:59:38 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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Someone is lying either Brice in this piece or Inglis in previous interviews. See, for example, http://www.wtop.com/?nid=105&sid=817479

Inglis told Television New Zealand last month that members of his party found Sharp close to death, tried to give him oxygen and sent out a radio distress call before continuing to the summit. Inglis said that when they radioed Brice at base camp he had advised them to carry on with the summit bid without attempting a rescue.

45 posted on 06/14/2006 10:02:48 AM PDT by palmer (Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
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What happened to the people the dead guy was climbing with? Do people actually try and climb Everest alone?


47 posted on 06/14/2006 10:10:58 AM PDT by Flightdeck (Go Longhorns)
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The ghoulish thing to me is that all of those bodies are just sitting up there forever, preserved by the cold, and serve only as landmarks. This bothers me, and it's wrong in multiple ways.


51 posted on 06/14/2006 10:16:22 AM PDT by denydenydeny ("Osama... made the mistake of confusing media conventional wisdom with reality" (Mark Steyn))
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I think what we ought to do to make Mt. Everest safer for climbers is to build a staircase leading up to the summit with balconies every 500 vertical feet or so for people to rest. On these balconies should be heated cabins complete with first aid stations, refrigerators, microwave ovens, shower stalls and bunks. We should also build an elevator so that the mountain can be handicapped accessible (and also be used to ferry down people who need to be rescued from the elements).

This would meant that Mt. Everest would have the world's longest staircase and tallest elevator which would be pretty cool.

98 posted on 06/14/2006 7:30:16 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (I think Randy Travis must be paying his bills on home computer by now)
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Brice revealed yesterday that Sharp was lying on top of the body of an Indian climber known as "Green Boots". The Indian's body had been in a small 8500m high cave since 1996.

The thought of climbers matter-of-factly navigating their courses and using the exposed and still-clothed corpses of long dead anonymous climbers as reference points is more than a bit grisly.

Reminds me of that great 70s book, "101 Uses for a Dead Cat." 101 Uses for a Dead Mountain Climber.

112 posted on 06/15/2006 5:11:14 AM PDT by JCEccles
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sparked a storm of controversy led by Sir Edmund Hillary

Wow, this thread is a blast from the past.

Apropos of something, Sir Edmund Hillary will be (or would have been ) 100 on July 20 of this year. He was alive when this thread was started.

Apropos of nothing, the OP was an original Seinfeld ping list member.

130 posted on 06/04/2019 2:41:57 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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So, have the other climbers started splitting up his gear?


132 posted on 06/04/2019 2:59:27 AM PDT by Nachoman (Following victory, its best to reload.)
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