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FEMA relief rife with abuse, fraud, report says (Katrina Fraud)
MSNBC ^ | 12 JUN 2006 | Chip Reid

Posted on 06/13/2006 4:01:53 PM PDT by Libertarian444

WASHINGTON - As requests for emergency assistance poured in after Hurricane Katrina, one applicant listed as his address the Greenwood Cemetery in New Orleans. FEMA promptly issued a check for $2,358 for rental assistance.

That's just one of thousands of examples of alleged fraud and abuse described in a new report by the investigative arm of congress — abuse that cost taxpayers about $1 billion.

One person applied for aid 13 times, using 13 bogus addresses, and received a total of $139,000.

The report says FEMA didn't even try to verify the identity of people who applied for aid by phone and says FEMA's fraud controls are “weak or nonexistent.”

More than 2,000 people applied for aid from prison and received about $12 million.

The report also finds that FEMA debit cards, which were supposed to be used for necessities, were used for a week-long Caribbean vacation, a $600 tab at a gentleman's club and a visit to Hooters, which included a $200 bottle of champagne.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abuse; fema; fraud; govwatch; gummintgiveaways; katrina; outofcontrolspending; porkaddicts; sexchange; spendingspree; stopmebeforeispend; taxes; waste
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To: Libertarian444

Yes there was fraud. But the question is how do you get funds to these people in need in a timely manner? Some of the shysters will be caught but many more won't be thus millions of dollars wasted. So something needs to be done to help those that do qualify in some sort of timely manner, imo.


21 posted on 06/13/2006 4:54:13 PM PDT by deport
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To: jcparks
And before you accuse me of being "intolerant" let me explain...

No risk there. I certainly wouldn't accuse you of being "intolerant". I think the existence of any federal function that isn't mandated by the Constitution should be questioned from time to time. Perhaps eliminated, perhaps not, but occasionally questioned nonetheless. It could make for an interesting debate.

There wasn't any such thing as FEMA, as its own agency, for many, many years after the founding of this country. In fact, I just googled it and found that FEMA wasn't formally established as an independent agency until 1979.

FEMA history

Even before FEMA existed, though, the feds took a role in assisting state and local governments with disaster relief efforts. That assistance was being provided independent of the existence of FEMA itself until 1979.

22 posted on 06/13/2006 5:12:34 PM PDT by Bob
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To: Retired Chemist
Yes, this was a sure thing from the start. But, could you imagine how many tears Geraldo would shed if a victim had to wait for some FEMA flack to check out each address? Even if the address was under water at the time?

For sure, some of these should have been caught before issuing checks to W. VA or a cemetary, but most of the examples were only known after the fact, when the bill was submitted from Girls Gone Wild, or the NO Saints Football Club. I hope that the "victims" that abused FEMA to the point of fraud will be held to account. We taxpayers may be generous, but we need to send a message that we won't stand still for robbery.

After all, a new hurricane season is upon us.

23 posted on 06/13/2006 5:17:29 PM PDT by Wingy
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To: Libertarian444

WASHINGTON - As requests for emergency assistance poured in after Hurricane Katrina, one applicant listed as his address the Greenwood Cemetery in New Orleans. FEMA promptly issued a check for $2,358 for rental assistance.

My entire family going back generations is buried in Greenwood (http://www.graveaddiction.com/greenwood.html ) and during Katrina parts of it did take on some water. I wonder what kind of "housing" this applicant had to evacuate? Could it have been a tomb, a coping, or an oven vault? ;)


24 posted on 06/14/2006 4:11:54 AM PDT by Mila
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To: Libertarian444

So why aren't recipieints of aid required to give a fingerprint for ID purposes? That would take care of a lot of the fraud problem.


25 posted on 06/14/2006 4:15:29 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Libertarian444

How dare you slander the lib's godvernment!


26 posted on 06/14/2006 12:48:21 PM PDT by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: no-to-illegals
as is said often....
our congress critters forget whose money they are playing with and wasting.
didn't they seem to try and hang out the welcome mat?
our ?
congress critters.
sheeeeiilieeeeiiii
money on the table, courtesy of the congress critters????

Are you related to the poet e. e. cummings?

27 posted on 06/14/2006 12:55:56 PM PDT by Prince Caspian (Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
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To: Libertarian444

Shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you....


28 posted on 06/14/2006 12:58:30 PM PDT by brothers4thID (Being lectured by Ted Kennedy on ethics is not unlike being lectured on dating protocol by Ted Bundy)
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To: Libertarian444

Cut off all "aid" and let states clean up their own self-created disasters.


29 posted on 06/14/2006 1:06:11 PM PDT by RasterMaster ("Big Tents" you get Clowns & Circus Freaks! The road to HELL is paved with LIEberals!)
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To: IronJack
Please, PLEASE tell me that this isn't a surprise to anyone ...

Or that the right way to solve the problem is to deregulate the insurance market and let the chips fall where they may.

30 posted on 06/14/2006 1:16:54 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Libertarian444

Fraud in the highest per-capita welfare receiving city? How could that be?


31 posted on 06/14/2006 1:19:45 PM PDT by BJClinton (There's plenty of room for all God's creatures, right next to the mashed potatoes.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

What I think is that we would do better without FEMA. Tell the states that emergencies are their responsibility.


32 posted on 06/14/2006 1:23:55 PM PDT by Rapscallion (They're not pro-America; they're democrats first.)
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To: Bob

Option C: FEMA sez "we'll get you to dry land, put you up for a couple nights in a tent, and grant you a few phone calls. Beyond that, it's your problem you chose to live below sea level."


33 posted on 06/14/2006 1:25:01 PM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: IronJack

I'm quite surprised to find out that Hooters sells $200 champagne.


34 posted on 06/14/2006 1:26:34 PM PDT by Xenalyte (The trouble with ignorance is that it picks up confidence as it goes along.)
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To: Libertarian444

The problem here isn't so much FEMA as it is New Orleans and the inbred corruption of people there. Of course there's going to be a little bit of fraud any time the purse strings come open in an emergency... But I would submit that there isn't anyplace in the country even close to New Orleans in its cultivation of people into what amounts to an almost subhuman existence.

I remember vividly watching New Orleans go over completely into Lord of the Flies, *instantly*. Somalia has a more civil culture than our own little third-world in Louisiana.

If it were up to me I'd cut off further federal money to New Orleans. It's a lost cause. Give it to the flies.


35 posted on 06/14/2006 1:29:22 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1400 knives and counting!)
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To: Libertarian444
The reason for this was mostly due to the media and the libs screaming to the high heavens about aid not reaching the people of NO/LA fast enough and FEMA bypassed many of their normal procedures

There is a reason for all that red tape and this fraud is an example of it

And Mary Landrau is begging for more even money

36 posted on 06/14/2006 1:29:22 PM PDT by Mo1 (DEMOCRATS: A CULTURE OF TREASON)
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To: Libertarian444

FEMA sucks.

FEMA hired drivers in to bring ice. If they didn't need the ice in Hattiesburg, the company had them run up to Iowa (anyway, a long ways away) for their next stop. The company sent them the bill for shipping.

They need the person from the Forest Service's Region 4 in charge of contracts for FEMA. No sugar daddy stuff like that ever happen again. That person runs a very tight ship, and keeps a eagle eye on contractor games. Emergency during wildland fires or no, you wouldn't ever get away with doing stunts like that in Region 4!

Lots of carefully prepositioned contracts, a well-organized cache of emergency equipment, buyers who have tightly controlled and limited authority on the ground and rational ideas about what things ought to cost.

FEMA comes around with dollars coming out of the kazoo, and little accountability, and starts throwing money around.

Could do a lot more good if somebody doing emergency response actually would use the people who know how to do the jobs without letting the government and the people they are trying to help get ripped off.

Shame!


37 posted on 06/14/2006 1:29:43 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Sounds wonderful, this fantasyland... but it isn't possible.


38 posted on 06/14/2006 1:32:29 PM PDT by Ramius (Buy blades for war fighters: freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net --> 1400 knives and counting!)
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To: Libertarian444
And what would the headlines have been if FEMA had required documentation?

EVIL BUSH ADMIN SQUEEZING KATRINA VICTIMS

39 posted on 06/14/2006 1:36:25 PM PDT by kerryusama04 (Isa 8:20)
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To: Libertarian444

Wouldn't this seem the same as Ann's comment about "enjoying" the results of the disaster?


40 posted on 06/14/2006 1:46:17 PM PDT by lawdude (Murtha: SPEAK LIES TO THE WEAK!)
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