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To: Mike Bates
Let's call a spade a spade--Ann doesn't know how these women feel, and she has no idea that these women "enjoyed" their husband's deaths.

Her point--about the way these women are point out there to spout anti-Bush rhetoric but are unable to be criticized because of their personal loss--is a valid one. But she has no idea about these women "enjoying" their husband's deaths.

4 posted on 06/13/2006 3:05:26 PM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Darkwolf377
But she has no idea about these women "enjoying" their husband's deaths.

She also has no idea if the dead husbands were going to divorce these women.

Coulter is projecting: she's been dumped so many times for being bitchy, she presumes that's the way every woman is treated.

7 posted on 06/13/2006 3:08:28 PM PDT by sinkspur (Today, we settled all family business.)
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To: Darkwolf377

Or to differentiate in another way, I don't think she meant that they enjoyed the actual deaths themselves, but rather the fruits of their deaths - the added attention, the celebratory mourning, and lots of other unseemly behaviors.


8 posted on 06/13/2006 3:08:35 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Darkwolf377

Exactly.


9 posted on 06/13/2006 3:08:48 PM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: Darkwolf377

Those kinds off comments from Anne are what I objected to also. She's just slinging mud on no factual basis. Something I would expect from a lib but not an intelligent woman like Anne.
She shamed herself with those comments, but I guess it helped her peddle her book.


26 posted on 06/13/2006 3:14:07 PM PDT by derllak
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To: Darkwolf377
Let's call a spade a spade--Ann doesn't know how these women feel, and she has no idea that these women "enjoyed" their husband's deaths.

The Jersey girls absolutetly enjoyed the deaths of their husbands. The problem is that many of you do not understand that there are TWO definitions of the word 'enjoy'.

The popular definition is: To seek pleasure from....

The other definition, and the one that Coulter used is: To gain benefit from....

Anyone who can deny that the Jersey Girls benefited from their husbands deaths, through notoriety, attention, financial and influential, is just ignoring the facts.

Coulter was dead on the money about those four.

27 posted on 06/13/2006 3:14:24 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Darkwolf377
"Ann doesn't know how these women feel, and she has no idea that these women "enjoyed" their husband's deaths."

Is that so? Given that the Leftist Jersey Girls couldn't wait to stand on their corpses and use their deaths as a soapbox for political action, I would think Coulter is exactly right about how the little darlings "feel."

49 posted on 06/13/2006 3:18:46 PM PDT by Reactionary (The Barking of the Native Moonbat is the Sound of Moral Nitwittery)
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To: Darkwolf377
Her point--about the way these women are point out there to spout anti-Bush rhetoric but are unable to be criticized because of their personal loss--is a valid one. But she has no idea about these women "enjoying" their husband's deaths.

Bingo!

149 posted on 06/13/2006 3:43:11 PM PDT by reaganandme (You don't beat a liberal by becoming one.)
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To: Darkwolf377

I interpret Ann's comment as not so much "enjoying" the fact that the spouses died, but seemingly reveling in the new status as victim, and playing it for all it is worth.

I mean I felt bad for Jim Brady and his wife for his head wound and aftermath when he was shot during the Reagan assasination attempt. But when they started going nuts about gun control, and showing up with Ted Kennedy etc. it made me sick. He was kept at same salary the remainer of the Reagan term even though he was not able to perform his old job, and a TV movie portrayed (accurately or maybe not) him as very hateful and abusive to his family. He became a pawn, biting the hands that fed him.

There is a lot of resentment in the land that these New Yorkers got Millions of dollars settlements, when Oklahoma City families did not, then they go around and bash the guy who is trying to make amends (Dubya).


205 posted on 06/13/2006 4:07:46 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: Darkwolf377

"she has no idea that these women "enjoyed" their husband's deaths. "

One dictionary definition of 'enjoy' states (paraphrase) 2. to reap a benefit of...

There is no doubt these women reaped a (MANY) benefit(s) from their husbands deaths. They received millions of dollars, they have been able to have center stage anytime they want and they can spout a hatred towards their perceived villains to the acclaim of their fellow haters.

How much more 'enjoyment' can they get?


322 posted on 06/13/2006 5:12:29 PM PDT by lawdude (Murtha: SPEAK LIES TO THE WEAK!)
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To: Darkwolf377
Let's call a spade a spade--Ann doesn't know how these women feel, and she has no idea that these women "enjoyed" their husband's deaths.

That sounds right. But I wonder how to react when, say, Micheal Berg praises Zarqawi for his courage to look his son in the eye or Cindy Sheehan praises terrorists, although the Jersey Girls haven't gone that far. I do agree that Ann did worse than make her point poorly by (marring an interview in which she otherwise completely destroyed Matt Lauer) questioning what she had no right to question, although I haven't read her book and people I respect such as Michael Medved have said she sets up her point so that it's clear she's not questioning their grief and sincerity. But my point is that at some point, it seems to me it becomes legitimate to even question the purity of grief. Mr. Berg in particular seems sick. I guess I should pity him and leave it at that.

328 posted on 06/13/2006 5:18:17 PM PDT by mjolnir ("All great change in America begins at the dinner table.")
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To: Darkwolf377
Consider these following definitions of "enjoy." 1) To have satisfaction in experiencing, possessing etc 2) To have possession, use of, benerfit from. Coulter's legal background betrayed her here. Blacks'Law Dictionary more or less combines the two definitions, and so Coulter really means they enjoy the beneeits of being widows, or showing off their widowhood. Cindy Sheehan certainly enjoys being a grieving mother, even if she doesn't enjoy the actual grief.
442 posted on 06/13/2006 9:22:39 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Darkwolf377
But she has no idea about these women "enjoying" their husband's deaths.

Modify that to say that about the aftermmath and it would be a valid observation. For some reason, Cindy Sheehan smiles and laughs too much to go with the "oh I'm a grieving mom" billing. It's disturbing.

She does that so much, so often you believe it's her real feelings and that when she's the sad or angry mom, that it's just an act.

But be sure to give her handlers, Cope Pink, VFP, David Swanson credit for their share of that BS.

451 posted on 06/13/2006 9:47:29 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Liberals saying "We Support The Troops" is like OJ looking for the real killers.)
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To: Darkwolf377

I see your point, but I think of it in terms of not having "enjoyed their husbands deaths" so much as "enjoying life after their husbands deaths." The second being rich from overcompensation (almost unprecedented in our history) and being fawned over by the MSM at every turn because 'they' were nothing but Democrat shills (wannabes, anyway) in the first place.


472 posted on 06/14/2006 4:08:28 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Darkwolf377; Peach

Exactly my views. She could have conveyed the same exact message, albeit with fewer book sales, without being so shrill and sensational.


538 posted on 06/14/2006 2:39:33 PM PDT by NYC Republican (GOP is the worst political party, except for all the others...)
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