Another “No Amnesty” Amnesty

National Review ^ | June 13, 2006, 6:32 a.m. | Mark Krikorian

[Maynerd]

Disappointing bobbing and weaving by Pence. Pence will permanently damage his conservative credentials if he continues to pursue this fools errand.

[AntiGuv]

"In seeking an alternative to amnesty, on the one hand, and mass deportations enforcing duly enacted law, on the other..."

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

His is not an amnesty, the invaders have to leave the country and apply for a guest work card.
It does not mean they will get one.

[SDGOP]

PENCE IS A RINO!!!!!

/sarasm

He is dissapointing on this issue.

[diogenes ghost]

And what are the odds they won't? I wouldn't put a nickle down with those odds.

[Rakkasan1]

Guest Workers Could Stay Indefinitely, Bill Says [The Senate Bill That Just Keeps On Giving]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1647784/posts

[GrandEagle]

His is not an amnesty

You have GOT to be kidding me!

"No employer in America wants to lose employees for an extended amount of time. No worker who is earning money to feed and clothe a family can afford to be off the job for long. … And, an illegal alien currently employed in America will be willing to take a quick trip across the border to come back outside of the shadows and in a job where he does not fear a raid by Immigration and Customs Enforcement. In fact, I envision employers working with placement agencies to make sure that their long-time illegal employees get their paperwork processed, background checks performed, and visas issued so that they will be back on the job quickly. "

It's entire objective is amnesty - call it what you will.

[Ol' Dan Tucker]

His is not an amnesty, the invaders have to leave the country and apply for a guest work card.

What will be the course of action when the illegals don't leave?

Granted, they won't get a GW card. But, what will the feds do to those who don't sign onto the program?

We can't round them up because they haven't registered.

Under Pence's proposal, how will we deal with these lawbreakers when they don't play the game according to Pence's rules? (Or, Bush's. Or, McCain's)

[upchuck]

"Recalling our recent conversation" ping :)

[Shermy]

Pence's speech gave his future opponents fodder. Funny, he probably thought all that Chamber of Commerce money promises for his 2008 bid plus words of "moderation" and that bill he was given and assumed MSM support...oh, well didn't work.

From the article:

""That also sounds good, until you remember that Senators Kennedy and McCain also deny their amnesty plan is an amnesty. As do Senators Hagel and Martinez. And President Bush.""

To be fair McCain now calls it an "earned amnesty."

[kabar]

You can put lipstick on a pig and it is still a pig.

[Candor7]

This battle is about RINOs versus conservatives in defining the future of our nation. It is a wirthy battle. The RINOs want the moderate Dem and Pubbie vote, not the conservative vote, and they have made their choice. Too early too.

That is why the RINOs amnesty needs to be snookered, lock , stock and barrel.

If we dp that, not one of them will be able to deliver a moderate vote to themselves and the next president of the USA will have to get out the conservative vote to win. McCain knows he can't do that, already tried and failed in 2004.

The future of our nation as a united, free state, as opposed to being a socialist nation like Canada or Norway is at stake, and so is the peaceful evolution of middle eastern democracy. I say deport these Mexican refugees even if it takes 20 years to do so.We do not need to convert our nation to a socialist state with social programs for Mexican refugees who should stay at home and work to change Mexico's aristocratic, tongue in cheek agressive government to one that evolves for their own prosperity. We have done our part to help with free trade, and accepting millions of them, now Mexico must ante up, or get out of our kitchen where they fully intend to ruin the food of freedom as soon as they can/

[Candor7]

[SDGOP]

LOL! I love that picture

[Riverine]

I too see this as another form of "shamnesty" but I'm curious if Pence has said anything specifically about the fraudulent use of documents that these people have been using over the years. Wink and a nod?

[BransonRevival]

The truth about the Pence plan

Pence's bill will do the following
1 Pass HR 4437
2 The border will be secured
3 Interior laws will be enforced
4 NO path to citizenship will be granted
5 Anchor baby citizenship will end
6 Removes all 10 to 12 million illegal aliens for United States
7 There will no longer be “undocumented workers”
8 Private Sector
9 Secures the border first.
10 We will control our border

Pence's bill only gives guest worker status after they have returned home and he gives them no path to citizenship.

Read speech and bill here
http://mikepence.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=45134

[BransonRevival]

Pence's bill will do the following
1 Pass HR 4437
2 The border will be secured
3 Interior laws will be enforced
4 NO path to citizenship will be granted
5 Anchor baby citizenship will end
6 Removes all 10 to 12 million illegal aliens for United States
7 There will no longer be “undocumented workers”
8 Private Sector
9 Secures the border first.
10 We will control our border

Pence's bill only gives guest worker status after they have returned home and he gives them no path to citizenship.

Read speech and bill here
http://mikepence.house.gov/News/DocumentSingle.aspx?DocumentID=45134

[gubamyster]

ping

[ken5050]

It'll be interesting to read Pence's reply to this...There will be one..

[GrandEagle]

Thanks for the link, I'll follow up on this tonight.
Based on your information, it sounds like it may be the ticket.

Cordially,
GE