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To: eleni121

Well, I always believed that you properly belong in the Russian paradise. I see it as an intrisically suboptimal society, with any attempt of improvement [even a Soros would be a vast improvement there] necessarily be [and be seen as] an interference with its very nature.


15 posted on 06/13/2006 3:48:25 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: GSlob

"...attempt of improvement [even a Soros would be a vast improvement there] necessarily be [and be seen as] an interference with its very nature."
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Moving on as there is nothing of substance in your response.


16 posted on 06/13/2006 3:54:02 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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Well, I always believed that you properly belong in the Russian paradise. I see it as an intrisically suboptimal society, with any attempt of improvement [even a Soros would be a vast improvement there] necessarily be [and be seen as] an interference with its very nature.

If I recall correctly you left Russia in 1981 and have never returned, correct? I can appreciate your negativity based on your prior experiences. That said, I don't hear anyone saying Russia is a paradise, it clearly isn't.

I first visited Russia in 2000, and quite frankly I did not see the communism I expected or read about for many years. Nor at that time was it anything like what I hear coming from the anti-Russian group on this board. I was shocked, and so I had a long chat with my best friend, a UMC minister, who spent several years attending school in Moscow and Russia in the late Eighties, and now returns yearly to teach in a seminary. He stated the difference between the Eighties and now is like night and day, with major improvement every year. Since my original trip I have noticed major changes for the better with each trip. Maybe, just maybe, you are shortchanging your country and its citizens.
17 posted on 06/13/2006 6:41:48 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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