Darwinism & the Culture of Death

New Oxford Review ^ | June 2006 | Anne Barbeau Gardiner

[Skooz]

It is my understanding that God operates outside of time and space.

Therefore, a picosecond and a trillion years are exactly the same to Him. God is not limited by time.

[stacytec]

I wouldn't exactly describe his theory as a philosophy. If Darwin operated under a philosophy, it would be that subset of Empiricism called science.

[shekkian]

Well, when we are living in Heaven for all eternity, time will cease to have all meaning.

I still firmly believe in the literal creation story in Genesis. Any idea about evolution and a 5 billion year old Earth is completely devoid of God as I know Him.

[Dimensio]

This article references a book that makes the same assertion that you had previously made in a different discussion: that the theory of evolution logically leads to genocide. However, like your previous assertions, the claim is still unsubstantiated. No attempt is made to show how the theory of evolution itself logically suggests that genocide is permissable or desirable.

[Dimensio]

Hitler followed Darwinism to its "natural" conclusion and application.

While you continue to make this assertion, you have yet to demonstrate that Hitler's actions are a "natural" conclusion of the theory of evolution. Neither your statements nor the statements of the relevant article actually show such a thing. Repeatedly asserting a claim, no matter how frequently, does not make the claim truth.

[Dimensio]

Curious that the article that you reference uses Darwin's philosophical views (ommitting that Darwin believed that neglecting the "weak" and "infirm" was evil, and thus that society should not do such a thing) as though they are a direct part of the scientific theory of evolution. Curious also that the article claims that the alleged consequences of a scientific theory are sufficient to support arguing against it, regardless of the validity of the theory itself.

[Dimensio]

The Nazi's just ran with the ideas and presuppositions that are implicit in Darwinism

What "ideas and presuppositions" implicit in the theory of evolution did the Nazis employ?

Also note that in most cases, it is not correct to employ an apostrophe to denote pluralization.

[yankeedame]

What "ideas and presuppositions" implicit in the theory of evolution did the Nazis employ?

(grin)Well, as your's truly was briskly directed a few posts back:

"Read some...books. Then get back to me.
You can find them on Amazon.com"

[Fester Chugabrew]

You're good at connecting the dots between fossils, but for some reason that ability fades when it comes to connecting the dots between theories and their application. That's okay. A good many people are not convinced man has been to the moon since, for them, it has not been sufficiently demonstrated.

[VictoryGal]

I read the Bible too, and I realize that there may be things about the infinite God that the finite book, however divinely inspired, cannot explain in fullness.

[VictoryGal]

> It is my understanding that God operates outside of time and space.

That's my understanding too.

> Therefore, a picosecond and a trillion years are exactly the same to Him. God is not limited by time.

I agree completely. That's why talking about days is merely a way to explain in concepts man was only able to comprehend in ancient time. Billions as a concept hadn't even been considered. In revealing Himself to the writers of the Bible, the time it took to create the universe could have been perceived by the finite, human writer as days for God when real-time could have been unfathomably long.

Even now, billions as a concept is hard to perceive in a tangible way, and only mathematically can we really start to know what it is.

I should quit now because religio/evolutionary arguments go around and around and never get resolved. If you don't see me respond further it's probably because I'm doing something more worthwhile (like teaching my cat to yodel).

[Dimensio]

You're good at connecting the dots between fossils, but for some reason that ability fades when it comes to connecting the dots between theories and their application.

You have not established any "dots" between the theory of evolution and genocide. I cannot connect dots when no dots exist. Your continued assertion that genocide is a logical application of the theory of evolution has not been supported with evidence.

[Ken H]

Oh, please. Not that idiocy. It's so played.

So is the idiocy in articles connecting Darwin and Hitler, Darwin and Stalin etc.

[Stultis]

So no, evolutionists who believe in God do not accept Darwin's theory.

Darwin, although he later became an agnostic, believed in God at the time he forumulated his theory.

[hail to the chief]

What? Where does Darwin's theory say anything about God?

[Skooz]

So is the idiocy in articles connecting Darwin and Hitler, Darwin and Stalin etc.

For the most part, I agree.

[hail to the chief]

Plus, that leaves a sixty-year time window from which anything can be blamed on Darwin.

[Skooz]

I should quit now because religio/evolutionary arguments go around and around and never get resolved. If you don't see me respond further it's probably because I'm doing something more worthwhile (like teaching my cat to yodel).

Well said. :0)

[Ken H]

Looks like Hitler was good at making up his own religion, based upon his feelings,

I basically agree. He used whatever means were useful to his own ends.

just like Darwin was adept at fabricating his own philosophy, based upon meticulous observations.

If I'm not mistaken, the vast majority of biological scientists in the US accept the Theory of Evolution. In which case, it puts you at odds with them.

IMO, it makes more sense to believe the vast majority of American scientists who work in, and study the field.

[bvw]

Yes, that in part is so, known to be so. There was a zeitgeist -- a spirit of the times -- in the English Academic circles, and the deflowering of organized religion as it was known then was a great part of the zeitgeist. And in Darwin's case we know of antipathy he bore for religious "bores" such as the captain of the Beagle.