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US Marines Build Shrine To Islam
Front Page Mag ^ | 6/13/06 | Paul Sperry

Posted on 06/13/2006 4:51:14 AM PDT by Buffettfan

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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse

http://www.challenging-islam.org/contributors/hugh/onislam.htm


181 posted on 06/13/2006 7:12:35 AM PDT by bornacatholic (Pope Paul VI. "Use of the old Ordo Missae is in no way left to the choice of priests or people.")
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
BeHoldAPaleHorse asks:
How do you define victory in a war against all of Islam? What is the desired end state?

Victory means no more Islam, ANYwhere. That means no one on earth believes in Allah any more. No more Quran. - relegated to a forgotten book on the ash heap of history.

The desired end state(s): the population(s) converted to Christianity, or even Hinduism or Bhuddism. ANYthing other than Islam. Back to paganism would be an improvement.

Anything less than that, and The West remains in danger.

It's that simple.

- John

182 posted on 06/13/2006 7:18:51 AM PDT by Fishrrman
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To: CWOJackson; Allegra
Vinny Gambini: I understand you played a game of pool with Lisa for $200, which she won. I'm here to collect.

J.T.: How 'bout if I just kick your ass?

Vinny Gambini: Oh, a counter-offer. That's what we lawyers - I'm a lawyer - we lawyers call that a counter-offer. This is a tough decision here. Get my ass kicked or collect $200. Let me think... I could use a good ass-kickin', I'll be very honest with you... nah, I think I'll just go with the two hundred.

J.T.: Over my dead body.

Vinny Gambini: You like to renegotiate as you go along, don't you? Well here's my counter-offer... do I have to kill you? What if I were just to kick the ever loving shit out of you?

J.T.: In your dreams.

Vinny Gambini: Oh no no... in reality. If I was to kick the shit out of you, do I get the money?

183 posted on 06/13/2006 7:19:00 AM PDT by Fruitbat (I)
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To: BeHoldAPaleHorse
If you read the Koran, the goal of islam is to convert, subjugate, or kill all non-muslims. Yes, islam is at war with the rest of the world, and that includes Hindus, Buddhists, and most especially Christians and Jews. It is their duty, according to their belief system.
184 posted on 06/13/2006 7:19:27 AM PDT by efs111
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To: Buffettfan

JERK OFFS, Without souls, running amuck,this must be the anti-christ, busy with the daze and confusion part.

Down with Islamic Terror.

GOD BLESS THE USA!


185 posted on 06/13/2006 7:19:34 AM PDT by OPS4 (Ops4 God Bless America!)
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To: arasina; Peach
It sure is. WHAT are they thinking? So does the Air Force Academy in Colorado get to build a big ol' church on their grounds now? And while we're at it, sheepdips at Quantico, if you're going to be so pathetically PC, I want a synagogue built right next to that mosque.

The Academy has a beautiful chapel, and there are a few Synagogues at large installations. The Naval Academy has one. I wouldn't be concerned about the Mosque, though a headcount of 24 is rather small, rather the fact that it's wahabbi based. It will be interesting to see if prostylization, a no no for Christians, is overlooked. I'd listen to the Navy Chaplain.

"I have great concern about this young Muslim chaplain," said Lt. Comm. Gary P. Stewart, also a Navy chaplain. "I don't trust him."

I think I recall some controversy surrounting Lt. Saifulislam in the past. If it’s more than simply his relationship with the Marine deserter, I’ll post it.

186 posted on 06/13/2006 7:21:16 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: Fruitbat

Very meaningless...like you Dingbat.


187 posted on 06/13/2006 7:21:23 AM PDT by CWOJackson (Go Mike Go!)
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To: Buffettfan

I do not like this. How dare they do this?


188 posted on 06/13/2006 7:21:46 AM PDT by Dustbunny (Amazing Grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me)
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To: Buffettfan

My bad. I thought this was about stacking the bodies of dead terrorists so they could be taken to a cemetary.


189 posted on 06/13/2006 7:22:10 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: SJackson
"I have great concern about this young Muslim chaplain," said Lt. Comm. Gary P. Stewart, also a Navy chaplain. "I don't trust him."

I've read about the Muslim chaplain too, and none of it was good. In fact, it was so bad I wondered if he was being monitored as a way to find out who he was working with.

190 posted on 06/13/2006 7:23:51 AM PDT by Peach (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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To: CWOJackson
As a native American, I am aware this is the United States of America.

Are you aware that in Islam there is no deparation of church and state?

If you are aware of that fact, do you think any danger exists in the tendency to downplay or dismiss the inherit incoherence (at best) in a gov't which enshrined a separation of church and state building a mosque for those who reject the idea of a separation of church and state?

191 posted on 06/13/2006 7:24:38 AM PDT by bornacatholic (Pope Paul VI. "Use of the old Ordo Missae is in no way left to the choice of priests or people.")
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To: CWOJackson
You'd be surprised that "here" doesn't matter Dingbat...but you're welcome to tag along with me to Ft. Lewis at any time to work with the troops and their families.

No thanks there Chief!

Yet another outstanding retort to my challenges however.

Is this all that you do on these boards, is to hurl personal insults and rant and rave using only your personal opinions without any substantiation otherwise as the basis for all of your arguments?

Let's see, you work with the troops, which if I and the rest of us here implied correctly, makes you some sort of person that automatically rushes to the head of the line for credibility, so we're supposed to bow to your opinions in spite of the sheer and utter devoid of any substantiation for them amidst your attempts to suggest that the 1st Amendment applies to muslims that very well might be anti-1st-Amendment, yet not to me and others here. Meanwhile you admit a conflict between the 1st Amendment (ergo, the Bill of Rights and the entire premise for the US Constitution), but you won't elaborate on those only hurling further insults at those "that dare" challenge your apparently god-like opinions!

No thanks chief, I'd just as soon stick my hand into a running garbage disposal than "ride along with you."

Meanwhile, Allegra's implications are that "because she's lived in the Middle East," everything that there is to know about Islam, it's tenets, writings, Mohammed, etc., as well as past, present, and future, she's an expert on.

We all get it! Truly, we do.

192 posted on 06/13/2006 7:25:17 AM PDT by Fruitbat (I)
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To: CWOJackson
P.S. Where's your jusfication of your agreement that the 1st Amendment is in fact at odds with Islam???? Is it really that difficult to defend your own positions? I would suggest that if it is, then perhaps you'd better consider "tweaking" them a wee tad.
193 posted on 06/13/2006 7:26:31 AM PDT by Fruitbat (I)
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To: bornacatholic
"Are you aware that in Islam there is no deparation of church and state?"

Which has nothing to do with religious freedom in America and for our troops.

194 posted on 06/13/2006 7:26:57 AM PDT by CWOJackson (Go Mike Go!)
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To: CWOJackson
Oh yeah, pardon me!

Dingbat

That was yet another great counterargument. I forgot to give you props for that one. I was afraid that you'd defer to the more childish and oft overused "liar, liar, pants on fire" retort instead.

195 posted on 06/13/2006 7:27:48 AM PDT by Fruitbat (I)
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To: notigar

I'd be happy for them to have a place to pray before they go put their lives on the line for the U.S.


But...but don't you realise that all Muslims want to kill us, and the only thing the Koran says is kill the infidels?
/sarcasm


196 posted on 06/13/2006 7:27:55 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Fruitbat
The first Amendment is not at odds with anything...it gives us ALL religious freedom.
197 posted on 06/13/2006 7:28:24 AM PDT by CWOJackson (Go Mike Go!)
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To: Buffettfan
Here is this Marine's personal monument to islam.


198 posted on 06/13/2006 7:28:35 AM PDT by GunnyHartman (The DNC, misunderestimating Dubya's strategery since 2000.)
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To: CWOJackson
"Are you aware that in Islam there is no deparation of church and state?"

Which has nothing to do with religious freedom in America and for our troops.

Is there blood flowing through your head Chief?

199 posted on 06/13/2006 7:29:10 AM PDT by Fruitbat (I)
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To: Fruitbat

Yes, is that pure alcohol flowing through yours?


200 posted on 06/13/2006 7:30:20 AM PDT by CWOJackson (Go Mike Go!)
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