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To: driftdiver
Hate the sin but not the sinner. There are so many things wrong with this group from a religious perspective. If they truly loved Jesus then it would show in their behavior. They would not harrass the loved ones at a funeral. They would not judge people. They would not do most of the things they are doing.

Hate the sin, but not the sinner is not in the Bible as far as I can determine.

I also disagree with your "if they truely loved Jesus ---~~They would not Judge people.

I understand where you are coming from sorta, but all Christians are called to judge period. Judge righteously" (Deut. 1:16-17; Lev. 19:15 (Jesus said, "Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment" (John 7:24). )... "he who is spiritual judges all things. For... we have the mind of Christ" (1 Cor. 2:15-16). "Those who rebuke the wicked will have delight, and a good blessing will come upon them." (Prov. 24:25).

"Every tongue which rises against you in judgment you shall condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord…" (Isa. 54:17).

To abhor evil, someone must first judge evil. God instructs men against "hypocrisy" commanding them to "abhor what is evil" (Rom. 12:9). Thus, unable to judge, and unaccustomed to abhorrence, Christians en masse become hypocrites when they obey the Hypocrites Golden Rule. For "judge not" (Mat. 7:1-5) is simply a hypocrites application of do unto others as you would have them do unto you (Mat. 7:12). "For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged" (Mat. 7:2). Judge others as you would have them do unto you inverted is Judge not if you do not want to be judged. Therefore the hypocrite does not judge. As Jesus said, "Judge not… you hypocrite" (Mat. 7:1, 5 KJV; Ezek. 16:52). Christ kept this theme throughout His ministry. "Hypocrites," Jesus said, "why, even of yourselves, do you not judge what is right?" (Luke 12:56-57). Still, His own followers have mostly ignored the Lord’s harsh rebuke: "Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother’s eye" (Mat. 7:5). "Judge Not" is the Hypocritical Oath.

Unfortunately, the Phelps have hypocrisy cornered. Their motives on money put them firmly in that corner. But judging is definitely a Christian job. Phelps are not Christian IMHO, just money chasing charlatans.

120 posted on 06/11/2006 9:35:29 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: LowOiL
Therefore the hypocrite does not judge.

Beg your pardon, I've met many who judge very much.

134 posted on 06/12/2006 12:38:25 AM PDT by drlevy88
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To: LowOiL

Good post.


145 posted on 06/12/2006 5:12:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: LowOiL

1) Love your neighbor as your self. (but who is my neighbor?)

2) Don't bother judging whether someone is going to hell. It isn't your business. In everything else, judge away!

IMO.


172 posted on 06/12/2006 7:32:00 AM PDT by ichabod1 (Let us not flinch from identifying liberalism as the opposition party to God.)
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