[A CA Guy]

I think the Constitution was never meant to be a suicide pact. Quote from Abraham Lincoln.

Law enforcement is needed to the extent that it is.

I don't mind finding better ways to do thing, but I am never for crippling our law enforcement, even for the pro recreational drug cheerleaders here.

[takenoprisoner]

"I think the Constitution was never meant to be a suicide pact. Quote from Abraham Lincoln"

At least you are openly anti-Constitution...what do you liberals call it? A living breathing document?

Whatever, Abe Lincoln should have known better and so should you. Amendments were provided for in our Constitution in order to prevent your feared suicide pacts.

Regardless, any law enforcer, congress, president, and judge etc. acting in violation of the Constitution is committing a crime...as did Lincoln when he went sent troops to attack the confederate states. Which is most likely what prompted him to say, "the constitution was never meant to be a suicide pact."

You guessed right, Lincoln suspected he was acting in violation of the Constitution.

[RedStateRocker]

If you carry a gun you are not allowed to make a mistake. If you can't be ALWAYS right as far as how and when you use force, you should not be allowed to use or have any access to force.

Government is not the solution, government is the problem
-Ronald Reagan