Washington Cardinal McCarrick Says He Supports Same-Sex Civil Unions on CNN

LifeSiteNews ^ | 9 june 2006 | Peter J. Smith and John-Henry Westen

[catholicfreeper]

I would give him a chance to clarify himself. I am not sure if what he was mentioning was a compromise that would in effect let a State still have civil Unions but that no State would be under any obligation to recognize it. That would be on the Federal level. I am pretty sure he opposes them when battling them out on the State level

[namvet66]

"McCarrick's a very good man and a good bishop. It appears he's giving his personal opinion here rather than the Church's teaching."

Really? Read my post #20 and do a little due dilligence on this Phony and get back to me.

And yes I'm a practicing Catholic (and have been for 62 years)

[Antoninus]

I'll say this... what a kick in the teeth that was to every one of the ever-shrinking number of practicing catholics in the US.

First off, the number of Catholics in the US is growing, not shrinking.

Maybe it really is time to let the church in America have a schism,

Where have you been for the past 30 years? AmChurch has been in crpyto-schism for a long time--that is, about 1/2 of the American bishops. Every now and then, one of these crypto-schismatics like McCarrick pokes his head up to defy the Vatican publicly. The best thing to do is denounce his statement and then studiously ignore him.

so that those of us who struggle and worry about trying to be faithful have a church whose individual regional administrators don't throw us under the bus and pander to outsiders.

Bishops are more than "regional administrators." Each one is basically a prince in his own diocese. They are supposed to be obedient to the Pope, but in practice, a sizable number of them ignore all attempts at discipline by the Vatican.

[Antoninus]

No. He's not. He is leaving Washington with 65 men in seminaries, the largest number of aspirants to the priesthood of any diocese in the country. He ordained 12 priests two weeks ago.

Based on his statement here, I'm more than a little suspicious about those 65 seminarians. Goodbye, Good Men ring a bell?

McCarrick's a very good man and a good bishop. It appears he's giving his personal opinion here rather than the Church's teaching.

Hey, Martin Luther did the same thing. Nobody claimed he was a good Catholic. Cardinal McCarrick can't get out of Dodge fast enough.

[don-o]

Mrs D will catch us up later. She just told me that DW cleaned a mess in Seattle.

God grant B16 many years.

[Godebert]

He should have been a Unitarian or Episcipalian if he wanted to glorify perverted behavior. The Pope should take away his pension and make an example of him for the rest of the homosexuals that have infested the Church.

[Aussie Dasher]

Any suggestion that he's a poofter?

[Godebert]

"Any suggestion that he's a poofter?"

I wouldn't doubt it.

[driftdiver]

I've been told my protestent ministers that about 60% of clergyman don't necessarily belive Jesus was the Son of God or that the bible is infallible.

Its no different in the catholic church. Why do these people take these positions if they don't believe it? Wish i could answer that question except that they are someones tools but not tools of God.

[babydoll22]

Nothing more than a new recruiting campaign.

They need to replace all the perverts that have gone to jail.

Catholicism is dead. Stick a fork in it.

[buccaneer81]

McCarrick's a very good man and a good bishop. It appears he's giving his personal opinion here rather than the Church's teaching.

In his position, the two cannot be separated.

Stop being such an apologist, Sink. It's time for a revolution.

[Aussie Dasher]

As long as God lives, so does Catholicism. We just have a lot of work to do straightening it out.

[sinkspur]

He's not a phony, but you have your mind made up.

As for the letter from the Vatican, there was much to do about it. However, Ratzinger sent another letter later (which I am attempting to locate) that supported the American bishops' 183-6 vote to leave the decision up to the individual bishops.

Here is the letter:

July 9, 2004

“Your Eminence

“With your letter of June 21, 2004, transmitted via fax, you kindly sent a copy of the Statement "Catholics in Political Life," approved by the members of the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops at their June meeting.

“The Congregation is grateful for this courtesy. The statement is very much in harmony with the general principles ‘Worthiness to Receive Holy Communion,’ sent as a fraternal service to clarify the doctrine of the Church on this specific issue in order to assist the American Bishops in their related discussion and determinations. It is hoped that this dialogue can continue as the Task Force carries on its important work.

“With fraternal regards and prayerful best wishes,

“I am, Sincerely yours in Christ

“Joseph Cardinal Ratzinger

Source.

[sinkspur]

Catholicism is dead. Stick a fork in it.

One billion members and growing. You're going to need a mighty big fork.

[VOA]

bump

[sinkspur]

Stop being such an apologist, Sink. It's time for a revolution.

There are no "revolutions" in the Catholic Church. Those who have led "revolutions" in the past have always found themselves outside the Church, eventually.

[jrny]

Quality, not quantity, is what is needed in our priests and laypeople. Numbers alone are not sufficient to determine the health of the Church, especially since the key is to differentiate PRACTICING/FAITHFUL Catholics from GENERIC/NOMINAL Catholics. That 1 Billion number quickly drops when making this distinction. Sad, but true.

Clean out the liberal trash, have a purified smaller Church, and then watch it grow to 1 Billion FAITHFUL members. That will be something to celebrate.

[Bishop_Malachi]

I agree. I'm a Knight of Columbus. We pledge to steadfastly support our priests, bishops, arch-bishops, and cardinals. Unfortunately, men like Cardinal McCarrick make it very difficult for us to do this with a clear conscience. I liken it to people in the military having to swear loyalty to Bill Clinton when he was in office.

[SkyPilot]

Here you go.

[Texas Songwriter]

What a f****** ass that man is... People like him destroyed the Catholic Church. Allowing queers to fill the seminaries was the beginning of the church's downfall. The CC has lost so much... they don't even know it yet.

Incredible that the catholic heiarchy would sanction pillow-munchers.