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Bush Defends Planned Path To Citizenship
Houston Chronicle ^ | June, 07. 2006 | Julie Mason

Posted on 06/07/2006 7:46:22 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest

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To: Reaganwuzthebest

I'm a big fan of GW, but I have a very different view in this case.

Plain and simple, you should never reward someone for breaking the law.

These people broke the law and should get no special treatment.

If they want to become citizens of the United States then they should go back to their home country and go through the proper channels to do it legally.

Calling amnesty a "guest worker program" is just like putting ketchup on a turd. It's still a turd. And realize that we already have a guest worker program in place. That's how legal immigrants get their green card.

Secure the border
Make it not economically feasible for a business to hire an illegal
Enforce the laws on the books.

Not rocket science.


21 posted on 06/07/2006 8:20:15 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (There are no trophies for winning wars. Only consequences for losing them.)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
I like the idea where they have to go back to Mexico and get in line for citizenship, but i think it's a good idea they get a chance to stay here without much aggravation as guest workers.

Also, why is nobody proposing a Constitutional amendment to end automatic citizenship for children born to those here illegally?

22 posted on 06/07/2006 8:22:34 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: CougarGA7
Plain and simple, you should never reward someone for breaking the law.

Here's your reward, Jose. It's called a lawwwwwnmower.

23 posted on 06/07/2006 8:23:33 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Why MeCain, Kennedy and The President are forcing this "Comprehensive" plan on American citizens is not what we want and are very clear on that.

The vast majority of American of both parties what the same thing. Homeland Security First!

Secure and control our borders so Islamoterrorist can't smuggle a WMD into our country and kill thousands of Americans.

Homeland Security & Immigration Reform should be dealt with separately and not bundled together in an politicized "Amnesty For Votes" boondoggle on the American people.

24 posted on 06/07/2006 8:25:36 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: ravingnutter
the same vetting procedures as legals

Not true, under the Senate plan the agents are limited to checking only what the illegal alien wrote on their application and subject to a $10,000 fine if they explore deeper.

25 posted on 06/07/2006 8:25:39 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Cuellar said that generally, he hears support from his constituents for a requirement that new immigrants learn English.

"¿Como estas?" Bush greeted patrons at Cotulla's,

"Howdy," Perry said,

Perry got it right.

26 posted on 06/07/2006 8:26:08 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: Mogollon

Sorry Jorge, but the day you decided to give away American Citizenship to CRIMINALS, you definitely lost this American's support.


27 posted on 06/07/2006 8:26:09 AM PDT by newcthem (When are our congress-men going to start getting paid in Pesos?)
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To: Tribune7

It should be a bus ticket...south.


29 posted on 06/07/2006 8:27:41 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (There are no trophies for winning wars. Only consequences for losing them.)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
[ "There's no question this is a difficult issue for some in Washington, D.C., but my job is to continue calling people to account," Bush said. ]

How about calling employers who have employed multi millions of illegal aliens to count.. Duuuugh.. Thats millions with an "M", George.. By the way, wouldn't hurt to call Property Managers who Rent, and Real Estate Brokers/Agents who sell to them, to count too..

Until that happens George WERE CALLING ((YOU)) TO COUNT..
And some of the OTHER RINOs too..

30 posted on 06/07/2006 8:29:34 AM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: SJackson

You know Perry might be good for 2008.


31 posted on 06/07/2006 8:30:19 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Just as with Meirs, "nobody else wants the job(s) seems to be a central piece in the Administration's domestic policy for the second term. Pretty pathetic to this Conservative.
32 posted on 06/07/2006 8:34:49 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: rolling_stone
The usual penalty for illegal entry or violating terms of a visa is removal from the United States.

The usualonly legally prescribed penalty for illegal entry or violating terms of a visa is removal from the United States..

33 posted on 06/07/2006 8:37:17 AM PDT by Spiff ("They start yelling, 'Murderer!' 'Traitor!' They call me by name." - Gael Murphy, Code Pink leader)
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To: DancesWithBolsheviks

Good post!


34 posted on 06/07/2006 8:37:35 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: ncountylee

Ahhh...a Senate plan. And that is Bush's fault...how? It is not his proposal. His proposal was exactly as I outlined, so yes...what I said IS true.


35 posted on 06/07/2006 8:39:21 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: ravingnutter
And just where did you read this? Not in that article.

Of course I didn't read it in that article. I read it in the senates bill, you know, the one they sent to the house, I read it in his speech outlining the path to citizenship. How else do you think they are going to get citizenship? By applying and waiting for it like everyone else? No, they are to be put on a fast track. Get your head out of your a** and quit being a blind follower of you elected officials. Demand they do what is right, and that is to enforce our existing laws.

As far as having to go through the same vetting procedures this is BS too. Where did YOU read that?

Send the law breaking parasites back home, where ever that is and make them apply from their home countries. NO AMNESTY. Bush and the senate need to take a constitution lesson for it is obvious they have never read the part about protecting our soveriengty.

36 posted on 06/07/2006 8:40:19 AM PDT by calex59 (The '86 amensty put us in the toilet, now the senate wants to flush it!)
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To: ncountylee

Do you mean this part?

(e) Confidentiality of Information-
`(1) IN GENERAL- Except as otherwise provided in this section, no Federal agency or bureau, nor any officer or employee of such agency or bureau, may--
`(A) use the information furnished by the applicant pursuant to an application filed under paragraph (1) or (2) of subsection (a) for any purpose other than to make a determination on the application;
`(B) make any publication through which the information furnished by any particular applicant can be identified; or
`(C) permit anyone other than the sworn officers and employees of such agency, bureau, or approved entity, as approved by the Secretary of Homeland Security, to examine individual applications that have been filed.
`(2) REQUIRED DISCLOSURES- The Secretary of Homeland Security and the Secretary of State shall provide the information furnished pursuant to an application filed under paragraph (1) or (2) of subsection (a), and any other information derived from such furnished information, to a duly recognized law enforcement entity in connection with a criminal investigation or prosecution or a national security investigation or prosecution, in each instance about an individual suspect or group of suspects, when such information is requested in writing by such entity.
`(3) CRIMINAL PENALTY- Any person who knowingly uses, publishes, or permits information to be examined in violation of this subsection shall be fined not more than $10,000.


37 posted on 06/07/2006 8:40:36 AM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
"There's no question this is a difficult issue for some in Washington, D.C., but my job is to continue calling people to account," Bush said.

I guess this means if somebody breaks in to my house in the middle of the night, they should automatically become part of my family?

38 posted on 06/07/2006 8:43:10 AM PDT by Gritty (Illegals work for less because they don't pay taxes and their employers don't obey laws-Ann Coulter)
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
LAREDO - In a parking lot of the Border Patrol headquarters three miles from the dividing line with Mexico, President Bush on Tuesday accused his opponents in the immigration battle of stirring up fear with false claims about amnesty.

"Look, if you're one of these types of people that basically say, you know, throw them out, then you just use the word 'amnesty,' just toss it around," Bush said. "In order to frighten people, you just say 'amnesty.' "

Once again the President and RNC are attacking Conservatives with nonsense like the President's remarks of yesterday. Talk about mud-slinging at your own base! Pathetic!

39 posted on 06/07/2006 8:44:25 AM PDT by conservativecorner
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

My e-mail to the White House after reading this article:

Mr. President,

I vehemently object to your characterization of those who oppose your plan of de facto amnesty as simply using scare tactics. You are simply digging your hole deeper. Your Republican constituency is not as stupid and the Democrats’ constituency. Your plan runs counter to fundamental principles of our nation: that we are a nation that respects the rule of law. However, it is becoming to appear that the citizens respect the law but our Government does not – and that applies to you, Congress and the judicial branch as well. Disgusting!

Those who callously ignore our laws to come here do not respect our laws, and they do not understand the importance of doing so. I find it unreasonable to believe that those who disrespected our law and willfully disobeyed would have a miraculous change of heart and somehow suddenly become trustworthy, honest and dependable citizens who would pledge uphold our laws. What good would their pledge be even if they made such a pledge? If you really believe we can depend on these people to be good citizens, you must be smoking some of the same stuff Bill Clinton smoked, and you must be ignoring the facts of local law enforcement blotters (and much of their criminal activity has been overlooked at the behest of your federal government). Unfortunately, I don’t think you really believe it. I believe you are being dishonest with, and unfair to, the honest, law-abiding, taxpaying citizens of this country. You are disrespecting those of us who voted for you and put you in office twice. In that regard, your position on immigration is disgraceful.

Your plan for de facto amnesty undermines important fundamental values and concepts that are essential to maintaining the fabric and strength of our nation. I don’t really think you understand the seething anger that the public harbors over this issue. The Republican Party will be a non-factor in national politics for the next thirty years if you get your way on this issue.


40 posted on 06/07/2006 8:44:46 AM PDT by RatRipper
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