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Toilet Terrorism
self ^ | 6/6/06 | self

Posted on 06/06/2006 8:18:37 AM PDT by tomzz

There are a number of issues with which a competent republican propagandist could beat the dems and libs to death in short order, and which we don't ever read about. The easily made case that Saddam Hussein was behind the anthrax attacks which followed 9-11 is one such. Another involves toilets.

You can get a feel for this one by doing a google search on the two terms 'toilet' and 'smuggling'...

One of the hits which turns up notes:

Canadian Toilet Smuggling Ring Flushed Out

The U.S. has beefed up their Canadian border patrol in midst of severe water shortage in the United States.

For years, U.S. residents have coveted and sought the Canadian toilets, which boast 3.5 gallons of flushing power, outperforming their 1.6 gallon counterparts in the U.S., which have been mandated by EPA restrictions.

Secretary Donald Rumsfeld: "They may be able to smuggle drugs into our country, and even bring in mulleted hockey fans, but make no mistake...not a single useful toilet will cross our borders."

This is another one of those cases in which left envirowhacks have mandated a law which makes everybody's lives worse. The new toilets generally have to be flushed several times before they're actually flushed, wasting more water than the old ones ever did on top of the aggravation they cause.

Now, I've never seen this in print, but from what I gather listening to people who've had the experience, the mandating of politically correct toilets in highrise buildings has had horrific consequences to such an extent that authorities have quietly let many such buildings go back to the old toilets. I'll leave details to the readers' imaginations but, basically, the sewage systems of such buildings have a certain capacity and that capacity was determined on the basis of the old toilets being flushed once and not the new ones being flushed four or five times...

Like I say, this one should get more air time than it does.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: chatroom; mdm; smuggling; toilets; vanity; whackos
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1 posted on 06/06/2006 8:18:40 AM PDT by tomzz
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To: tomzz
This is another one of those cases in which left envirowhacks have mandated a law which makes everybody's lives worse. The new toilets generally have to be flushed several times before they're actually flushed, wasting more water than the old ones ever did on top of the aggravation they cause.

The higher pressures that are necessary to flush the low flow toilets cause infectious fluids from the toilet to be aerosolized and spread around the bathroom.

2 posted on 06/06/2006 8:24:46 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

Can you imagine having the authors of this BS running the country??


3 posted on 06/06/2006 8:32:08 AM PDT by tomzz
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To: Paleo Conservative
When I move into my new house I'm taking my toilets with me.

As technically advanced as we are and we wanted to save water we could design a full size john that had two settings, a light flush and a super flush, so the user could select the water usage he needs.

4 posted on 06/06/2006 8:32:28 AM PDT by oyez (Appeasement is insanity)
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To: Paleo Conservative; tomzz
The new toilets generally have to be flushed several times before they're actually flushed

This just ain't true anymore...it was several years ago, but now plumbers have figured out how to give them a good sufficient gulp.

The newer 1.6s (I had my plumber buddy install two of them last year) work just fine. One of the tips he gave me was to be sure and get a model that has the entire trap porcelain glazed...a lot of them aren't, and that apparently impedes the action (and the life, since deposits can build up on the rough surface).

5 posted on 06/06/2006 8:38:40 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (Meep Meep)
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To: tomzz

I kind of like low-flow toilets. Much less chance of the ol' overflow. Yes, they waste water with all of the flushing, but that ain't no skin off my back.


6 posted on 06/06/2006 8:39:07 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: tomzz

"The new toilets generally have to be flushed several times before they're actually flushed, wasting more water than the old ones ever did on top of the aggravation they cause."


As a plumbing contractor I find BS like this tiresome.

I have replaced every old toilet out there, and while many of the old 5 and 7 gallon toilets gave great flushes, I wouldn't trade my 1.6 gallon toilets for any of them, and of course I get that choice fairly often.

If you are really having to flush your toilet 3 to 7 times per use, that means your toilet doesn't work.

Open the Yellow Pages, tell the plumber your problem, make sure he honors his one year guarantee and let him replace your toilet.


7 posted on 06/06/2006 8:50:52 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: tomzz; A. Pole
The U.S. has beefed up their Canadian border patrol in midst of severe water shortage in the United States. For years, U.S. residents have coveted and sought the Canadian toilets, which boast 3.5 gallons of flushing power, outperforming their 1.6 gallon counterparts in the U.S., which have been mandated by EPA restrictions.

If we had ended ALL immigration forty years ago, we'd have half our current population . . .

And twice as much water . . .

And we wouldn't need toilet police.

Another example of how immigration is flushing our freedom.

8 posted on 06/06/2006 9:01:47 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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Al Gore deserves all of the credit for starting this mess. It was his legislation that mandated 1.6 gallons.

I recently bought a new top of the line American Standard. It has been fully redesigned. The paperwork says it can flush over a dozen golfballs with no problem. I would put it up against Al Bundy's Ferguson. I suspect that it could easily suck down a good sized tomcat.


9 posted on 06/06/2006 9:04:30 AM PDT by FreeInWV
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To: ansel12

I'm with you. I had a new 1.6 gallon toilet installed 3-4 years ago. It flushed ANYTHING the first time. It's a high-pressure flush so the tank has new-fangled innards [no flap or any other part that I can recognize]. We have not called the plumber or opened the tank to service anything once since it's been in my house.


10 posted on 06/06/2006 9:04:45 AM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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If you are really having to flush your toilet 3 to 7 times per use, that means your toilet doesn't work.

Or maybe he eats foods high in fiber, which most Americans do not.

I eat lots of fiber rich foods.

And I lived with one of those low flush abominations for a short time--and I had to use a plunger every damn time.

11 posted on 06/06/2006 9:04:55 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Clara Lou
the tank has new-fangled innards [no flap or any other part that I can recognize]. We have not called the plumber or opened the tank to service anything once since it's been in my house.

Yeah--and the thing is probably so complicated even if you could find the part, you'd never be able to do the simplest routine repairs without calling a plumber.

12 posted on 06/06/2006 9:07:05 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Paleo Conservative; tomzz
The higher pressures that are necessary to flush the low flow toilets cause infectious fluids from the toilet to be aerosolized and spread around the bathroom.

The one I had, had it's inlet pointed toward the user.

They must have designed it that way to have a shorter path for the water to travel when leaving the tank.

Trouble is, often it would spit toilet water (and fecal matter) across the room, so you had to stand aside when flushing it.

And then get the mop afterward.

POS.

13 posted on 06/06/2006 9:10:52 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: tomzz

Toilet Terrorism: what I investigated several times as a cop. Usually the product of a soon-to-graduate high school senior flushing a cherry bomb down the toilet.


14 posted on 06/06/2006 9:12:13 AM PDT by BeHoldAPaleHorse ( ~()):~)>)
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To: Age of Reason

"Yeah--and the thing is probably so complicated even if you could find the part, you'd never be able to do the simplest routine repairs without calling a plumber."

They are actually easier to repair, and the parts are more standard than other toilets.





15 posted on 06/06/2006 9:12:49 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Age of Reason

Myabe you missed the part [right after that] where my post said that it has never needed servicing. Actually, I just took the time to figure out how long I've owned it, and it's been 5 years. 5 years and no servicing at all.


16 posted on 06/06/2006 9:12:53 AM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: ansel12

We are getting ready to build a new house. Which brand/models do you like?

Some of the early low flow ones were pretty poor IME, but if there are better out there, I would gladly install them


17 posted on 06/06/2006 9:15:41 AM PDT by Starwolf
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To: Age of Reason

"The one I had, had it's inlet pointed toward the user.

They must have designed it that way to have a shorter path for the water to travel when leaving the tank.

Trouble is, often it would spit toilet water (and fecal matter) across the room, so you had to stand aside when flushing it.

And then get the mop afterward."




You are just making this stuff up.


18 posted on 06/06/2006 9:16:07 AM PDT by ansel12
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To: Paleo Conservative
The higher pressures that are necessary to flush the low flow toilets cause infectious fluids from the toilet to be aerosolized and spread around the bathroom.
I suppose that depends on the model that you purchase. I got worried about that after mine was installed, so I did some checking over a few days. It stands to reason that if it creates aerosol, it's also going to create some larger, tell-tale droplets and moisture on a closed lid and the seat. Doesn't happen with mine. My assumption is that there is little or no aerosol.
19 posted on 06/06/2006 9:18:40 AM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: tomzz
Can you imagine having the authors of this BS running the country??


20 posted on 06/06/2006 9:19:48 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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