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Activists Say Immigration Debate Shows Signs of Racism [Barfer]
AP/Fox ^ | June 05, 2006

Posted on 06/05/2006 9:23:52 PM PDT by ncountylee

NEW YORK — As the fight over immigration reform drags on, an ominous undercurrent to the debate — racism — is becoming more pronounced.

From muttered ethnic slurs to violent attacks, activists say an anti-immigrant backlash seems to be growing in America's neighborhoods and workplaces. A few political leaders have called proposed immigration measures before Congress "racist."

"The climate has gotten demonstrably worse and it is racially charged," said Devin Burghart of the Center for New Community, which tracks anti-immigrant activity. "It's not simply a debate about immigration policy. ... It's about race and national identity and who and what we are as Americans."

Some activists say the House of Representatives started it.

When lawmakers passed a bill in December that would make illegal immigrants felons, many felt that was a swipe at Latinos, who make up 80 percent of the nation's estimated 11 million illegal immigrants. Former President Jimmy Carter has said the bill had "racist overtones," and that feeling helped push more than 1 million demonstrators to attend street rallies in recent months.

Some reacted the same way after the Senate passed an amendment to its immigration bill last month that declared English the national language. Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, a Nevada Democrat, called that "racist" and "divisive."

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; confusetheissue; desperateleftists; diversion; immigrantlist; noracismhere; racecard; redherring
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1 posted on 06/05/2006 9:23:54 PM PDT by ncountylee
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To: ncountylee

"LA RAZA" shows signs of being racist and divisive.


2 posted on 06/05/2006 9:25:07 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (H.R.4437 > S.2611)
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To: ncountylee
National defense has nothing to do with race as the AP well knows. Just attempting to smear supporters of border control.
3 posted on 06/05/2006 9:25:50 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

When the debate cannot be won by the opposition, they always resort to name calling. Adults with a 5th-grade mentality. Liberalism to a tee.


4 posted on 06/05/2006 9:27:29 PM PDT by L98Fiero (I'm worth a million in prizes.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Damn, you beat me to it... Can you imagine if whites created a group for white supremacy and start marching in the streets claiming that they were support to central and south americans?? Oh wait, we do. Its called the KKK. And the nation considers them a hate group. Wonder when MECHA and La Raza are going to get put on the list.


5 posted on 06/05/2006 9:32:48 PM PDT by bpjam (If we take 12M Mexicans, they have to take Kennedy & McCain!)
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To: bpjam

Heh.

If I didn't think some neo-Nazi skinhead would run with the idea, I'd actually be in favor of (tongue in cheek) a mirror group simply called "THE RACE".

Newspaper and everything. As elaborate satire.

Some perspective, is badly needed. We spend several hundred years constructing a colorblind nation - and then voluntarily hand over the keys - so they can make the same mess of our country they've done back home?

How does that help them, or us???

I love Mexico, but I don't want to be Mexico. We should remain good neighbors. Not move into a commune together!


6 posted on 06/05/2006 9:42:53 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (H.R.4437 > S.2611)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Good fences make good neighbors.

Sound advice for Mexico and the United States.


7 posted on 06/05/2006 9:49:27 PM PDT by nj26 (Border Security=Homeland Security... Put Our Military on the Border! (Proud2BNRA))
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To: ncountylee

Looks like the "activists" just played the race card on the "white non-hispanics." That'll have a tear running down the legs of our "courageous" politicians.


8 posted on 06/05/2006 9:52:31 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (DemocRATS! America's Lynch Mob.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
"LA RAZA" shows signs of being racist and divisive.

"For the race, everything! For everyone else, nothing!" Damn racist if you ask me. What race? the "Hispanic" race? What the hell is that?! Since the Hispanic "race" is everything from blonde hair blue-eyed Aryan to coal-black African? Is it just speaking the language of white European people? Damn evil. Just damn evil.

10 posted on 06/05/2006 9:55:48 PM PDT by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: ncountylee
A few political leaders have called proposed immigration measures before Congress "racist."

Man, like I never expected them to do that.

Don't Bee a race-baiting Democrat!

11 posted on 06/05/2006 9:56:58 PM PDT by Richard Kimball (I like to make everyone's day a little more surreal)
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To: ncountylee

You caught me...I admit it...I'm a bigot...A racist...I am anti illegal alien...


12 posted on 06/05/2006 10:00:26 PM PDT by Iscool (You mess with me, you mess with the whole trailer park...)
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To: hokie74

I know many people, including Bush haters who voted for Kerry, who are absolutely against illegal immigration, amnesty, granting illegals social security, etc. Yet the media, including my beloved Fox News, insists on framing this debate as a "right wing" cause. Nothing could be further from the truth! Especially since so much of the country is against it.

In fact, I don't know ANYONE who is in favor of these ridiculous proposals except for the Senate, the activists and the administration.


13 posted on 06/05/2006 10:10:32 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: ncountylee
"The climate has gotten demonstrably worse and it is racially charged,"

Racism has nothing to do with any of it. We're being invaded by a people who have little or no respect for America's culture, history, and laws. If millions of Latinos desired above all else to become patriotic American citizens and adopt our language/culture and went about gaining citizenship in the appropriate (legal) manner most Americans would have no problem with it at all.

14 posted on 06/05/2006 10:28:06 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Joann37
The Fox News "conservative" stance on immigration is despicable, and mimics that of the Wall St. Journal.

Insulated country club Pubbies who have no idea what's at stake.

15 posted on 06/05/2006 10:30:31 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: ncountylee

Is this racism?

http://www.mayorno.com/WhoISMecha.html
http://www.mayorno.com/aztlan.html


16 posted on 06/05/2006 10:31:10 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Vincit Omnia Vertas- translation:Truth Conquers All.)
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Strange how few in the mainstream press will ever note the racism of the illegal aliens who speak of conquerng the American south west & pushing out all those who are not part of their own racial group.


17 posted on 06/05/2006 11:07:17 PM PDT by Republic_of_Secession.
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To: hokie74
Mexican culture is quite racist and they have a "caste" system with the white Spaniards on top, the Indians on the bottom and the mestizos graded by color in the middle.
Not since 1824, when Mexico was the first country to legally outlaw "racial" distinctions. The word Raza only secondarily means "race" as we use it in English (it's the 9th definition in the Diccionario de la Real Academia Españole. The best translation would be "peoples" -- as in día de la Raza (the Mexican name for our Columbus Day).

Who are these "white Spaniards?" who are supposedly on top? In the U.S., we've only had one president who was not a White Protestant. Mexico has had two presidents of mostly African heritage, one completely indigenous, several who were mostly indigenous and any number who were of several ethnicities. Vincente Fox's mother was a Spaniard, but his roots are in a part of Mexico where European immigrants from the 19th and 20th century are much more numerous than in the rest of the country. Very few Mexicans are "white" after the second or third generation. The supposedly "white" rich you hear about are usually the children of Europeans who fled to Mexico from the Fascist countries in the 1930s and 40s (when Mexico was recovering from the Revolution and rapidly industrializing) and who arrived with needed technical skills -- and money. Jews might be slower to assimilate, but that's because they tend to marry other Jews. (The same can also be said for the many wealthy families of Lebanese and Palestinian descent -- again for religious reasons, being mostly Maronites who marry other Maronites).

Admittedly, there is discrimination in Mexico against indigenous peoples, but the distinction is not made by color or ancestry, but by custom and tradition. i.e., an "indian" who speaks Spanish, lives in a city and dresses in western clothes is treated no differently than anyone else, where his brother, who speaks Nahuatl, lives in the country and wears a manta will be thought of as stupid and lazy. I once heard "indio" used by a dark skinned, short, broad-chested man with a roman nose as a cuss word to describe a blonde blue-eyed drunk who soiled himself in the Metro.

In my own Mexico City neighborhood, there are poor "whites" and well to do dark skinned people. There are some people of African descent, but mostly immigrants from the Carribean or Brazil (or Africa, surprisingly). Slaves in Spanish culture were allowed to marry whomever they chose, which were usually free women (mostly indigenous women)-- the few Afro-Mexicans around now are backwoods country folks, seen much as "hillbillies" are seen in our culture. That's a stereotype, but not "racist" in the sense we use it.

Mexicans themselves find the U.S. term, "Hispanic", strange -- they see it as meaning Spaniards (or things from the Iberian Peninsula). You'd have to blame the Nixon administration for that peculiar bureaucratic pigeon-hole. If Latin Americans were classifed by "race" (in the U.S. sense of the term), you'd find the percentage of "native Americans" much higher -- which may be the reason for making up this phoney "race".

18 posted on 06/05/2006 11:25:33 PM PDT by rpgdfmx
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While there is a racist component of the alien immigration into the country (some people would be more in support of largescale immigration if from Europe, especially the Northwest of the European subcontinent), the vast majority probably are not opposed to the influx from Mexico mainly on racist grounds. And while legally Mexico beat the United States to remove some racist measures, as a whole Mexico is more racist than the United States. Most cosmopolitan cities in the United States have a mix of people as you described near Mexico City. Also, most of Mexico's presidents have been of majority European descent although such people are not the majority of the population, as are Protestants of European descent.


19 posted on 06/06/2006 1:38:26 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu (www.answersingenesis.org)
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To: Jedi Master Pikachu

....descent in the United States.


20 posted on 06/06/2006 1:40:05 AM PDT by Jedi Master Pikachu (www.answersingenesis.org)
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