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Posted on 06/05/2006 7:45:38 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana
Hispanics don't speak in one voice on illegals
Monday, June 5, 2006
By ELIZABETH LLORENTE STAFF WRITER
The group's name is You Don't Speak for Me, and the fledgling organization is against illegal immigration.
But this coalition of Hispanics -- which has a presence in New Jersey -- is already drawing fire from a growing chorus of immigration advocates questioning who really speaks for You Don't Speak for Me.
The group was created by the nation's most powerful lobbying organization for strict immigration policies -- the Federation for American Immigration Reform. FAIR, which is based in Washington, D.C., also sends out the group's e-mails and lists its own officers as the group's spokesmen.
"It's a front group for FAIR," says Douglas Rivlin, of the National Immigration Forum, an advocacy group in Washington, D.C. "Anti-immigrant groups have been controlling the debate on immigration for most of the last decade or so. Now they're increasingly worried that their dominant role on this issue is eroding."
FAIR scoffs at the criticism, and says it is merely lending support to Hispanics from around the nation who share its views on immigration and who want another "Hispanic voice" heard.
"These are people who wanted to make sure that both sides of the immigration debate were represented," said Susan Wysoki, a spokeswoman for FAIR and the contact on You Don't Speak for Me press releases.
"They were all doing their own thing to support immigration control. We just wanted to facilitate their coming together," she said.
The criticism about FAIR's role in the creation of You Don't Speak for Me particularly vexes the Hispanics who belong to it.
You Don't Speak for Me members strongly condemn illegal immigration. They call for strict enforcement of immigration laws and the passage of additional hard-line measures. They denounce congressional proposals that would allow some people who are here illegally to obtain legal status.
You Don't Speak for Me says that its members truly represent Hispanics on the issue of illegal immigration. They say it is their group -- not the protesters who have dominated the headlines this year -- who more accurately reflect Hispanic Americans.
"The media image is that the Latino community is in favor of illegal immigration," said Miguel Cruz, a Newark resident and a member of the new coalition. "But that image is erroneous. Hispanics don't all think the same way. Those of us who are U.S. citizens, who are here legally, love this country and the fact that it's a country of laws. We think that to force your way into another country is wrong. You shouldn't get amnesty; we should close the border entirely."
He takes offense at the notion that he and other members of the coalition are being used as props.
"Yes, the coalition is FAIR's creation, it's their mission, but the truth is that without us, they can't do it," Cruz said. "They tell us there's a press conference, and they finance the travel and other expenses, but they don't tell us what to say. They do not intrude."
The coalition's chairman, Albert Rodriguez, who lives in Arizona, grows passionate when assailing illegal immigration. Rodriguez, a military veteran, said he was looking to form a coalition of like-minded Hispanics, and he embraced FAIR's assistance when it was offered.
"I had spoken to a couple of American Hispanics and I said, 'Look, they're trying to lump us with these guys, and implying that we're all for these illegal activities of illegal aliens.' I said, 'We have to do something about this; we have to start telling people that these protesters marching with illegal aliens don't speak for me.' "
Thanks to FAIR, Rodriguez said, Hispanics who favor stricter immigration enforcement are joining forces. He said more than 1,000 people have joined the group via its Web site.
You Don't Speak for Me members concede that the group is meant to challenge the notion that opposition to illegal immigration is rooted in bigotry.
"If you're a European white speaking against illegal immigration, you're automatically considered racist," said Carmen Morales Perez, a You Don't Speak for Me member who lives in Woodbridge. And so, she said, "Hispanics speaking out are heard more than other people because then the race card is removed, and it's just about what they're saying."
In an opinion piece for a community newspaper in Nevada, Emma Sepulveda, a professor at the University of Nevada, questions the strategy of pitting Latinos against each other.
"Once you begin to read more about such groups and their connections, you almost always find some of the most virulent anti-immigrant organizations behind their efforts, groups such as FAIR," she said. "Organizations such as FAIR are making inroads now in trying to pit Latinos against Latinos. And that could have a demoralizing effect in the future for those organizing the political and social efforts of Latino coalitions."
E-mail: llorente@northjersey.com
You Don't Speak For Me ping
Just because someone is Hispanic does not mean that they want illegals running roughshod over the border. Why this is a mystery to people is amusing.
Maybe you can try and get others to support this.
It's a shame to brand a group of immigrants in such a negative way when they went through the process legally.
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Just a note that they're not necessarily immigrants, but both legal immigrants and hispanics whose families have been here as many as 7 or 8 generations, like mine.
I read that thread last night, and it really teed me off. If I were an Arizonian, I'd be like agua para chocolaté (boiling like water for hot chocolate).
I wonder what McCain's staff would do if Col. Al Rodriguez of YDSFM showed up at this office?
Maybe he should try to drop by......with a photographer.
It's hard to talk about the whole immigration issue without getting a whiff of anti-hispanic bigotry sometimes.
Y'all are right, and to deny this would be burying one's head in the sand, but the tiny amount of true knuckle draggers don't seem to realize that their views actually HELP the open borders lobby. By the same token, to me, the big business and who's-gonna-pick-our-fruit open borders lobby to me is rooted in bigotry as well, attempting to create an underclass of people who are poorly paid and whose lives are left to the rest of us to subsidize and resent, when in fact, we are subsidizing the businesses who hire them cheaply.
It is funny, the professor thinks it is wrong to pit Latino against Latino, but it is OK for whites to pit themselves against each other (Dem vs GOP). On the other hand he may be raising an interesting ethnic political point. If whites (65 percent of US population) practice what he advocates for the Latino population, and whites all united and vote for their own cultural, economical and political interests; PC, illegal immigration, affirmative action quotas and other leftist creations would not even make it to the political forefront.
For me, it's not Latino against Latino. It's hard-working, exorbitant-tax-paying, own-bootstrap-pulling, American of Latino descent against ILLEGAL, sponge-off-the-government, refusing-to-assimilate, aliens of all flavors. The professor wrongly assumes that all American Latinos/Hispanics define themselves by their ethnicity, and that's not so--some carry their identity as NASCAR fans first or stay-at-home-moms first or lawyers first or plumbers first, or you name it.
I think he should drop by and see what the creeps do!It is a sad day when people wait to come to this great country and then they just open the borders to the illegals..When law abiding Mexicans and other people that come and do the right thing to get here....we should all write to Col. Al and encourage him to go see the old RINO and take Conservative press with him..He should also ask why the minutemen were treated so badly..
The long suffering but most anxious and fortunate future Mrs. rrrod is Hispanic and feels the same way most feel..IT'S LEGAL vs ILLEGAL. Most legal residents feel this way too.
Please have her sign up at the site.
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