[muir_redwoods]

"Many libertarians don't like the implications of traditionalist ideas but very few have cogent arguments against them. They simply don't like them.

I have many cogent arguments against many traditionalist ideas, I refer you to the Bill of Rights for a synopsis.

[Zhang Fei]

I have many cogent arguments against many traditionalist ideas, I refer you to the Bill of Rights for a synopsis.

The Bill of Rights doesn't argue anything. It assumes a whole bunch of stuff out of whole cloth. I happen to agree with most of what it assumes. But they are principles, not arguments.