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Bush is the Next Reagan
Persian Journal ^ | Jun 4, 2006 | Slater Bakhtavar

Posted on 06/04/2006 2:24:14 PM PDT by nuconvert

Bush is the Next Reagan

Jun 4, 2006

Slater Bakhtavar - Persian Journal

The same people who heavily criticized former President Reagan for his tough stance against Communism and for his aggressive push for democracy in Eastern Europe are now attacking President Bush for his tough stance against fundamentalism and his aggressive push for democracy in the Middle East.

-They argued then that Communism would never fall - it did They argue now that Islamic Fundamentalism will never fall - it will

-They argued then that the Soviet Union is too strong - it wasn't

They argue now that the insurgency is too strong - it isn't

-They argued that Reagans vision of democracy in East Europe would never work - it did

They argue now that Bushs vision of democracy for the mid-east would never work - it will

They argued then that Reagans evil empire speech was a failure - it wasn't

They argue now that Bushs axis of evil speech is a failure - it won't be

-They argued then that former soviet bloc countries wouldn't embrace democracy - they did

They argue now that middle east countries would never embrace democracy - they will

-They argued then that Eastern Europeans nations would never be our allies - they are

They argue now that middle eastern countries will never be our allies - they will be

-They argued then that people without God could never embrace democracy - they did

They argue now that Muslims will never embrace democracy - they will

-They argued then that President Reagan was unrealistic - he wasn't

They argue now that President Bush is unrealistic - he'll prove he isn't

-They argued then democracy isn't universal to former Communists - it was

They argue now democracy isn't universal to Middle Easterners - it will be

-They argued then that funding of pro-democracy groups in Eastern European countries won't work - it did

They argue now that funding of pro-democracy groups won't work in the Middle East - it will

The same exact critcism was directed at Reagan. The future will be the judge of President Bush and my guess is that he will be judged as the Great Liberator of the Middle East.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; bushdoctrineunfolds; deify; democracy; liberators; middleeast; reagan; spendalot; strongleader; weakposters; worstprezever
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To: ohioWfan
"Reagan blew a number of things.......including amnesty. That's why it's almost amusing that those of you who are hostile and angry at Bush about immigration still deify Reagan."

No one is denying that Reagan made a major mistake on amnesty. But great leaders learn from their own mistakes and the mistakes of others ... AND DON'T REPEAT THEM.

The Bush/Senate amnesty is going to make Reagan's amnesty look like a Cub Scout Den compared to the National Jamboree.
201 posted on 06/04/2006 5:53:59 PM PDT by BW2221
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To: Torie

NOT this Republican Congress, with a Dem President...

NO WAY!!!


202 posted on 06/04/2006 5:54:25 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: NittanyLion
And if I claimed Bush and Clinton shared a propensity for big government, you and other posters would jump all over me for making the claim.

Not me. Bush is a big government guy because America wants big government. And, the next president will also be a big government guy, no matter how much conservatives howl about it.

203 posted on 06/04/2006 5:54:26 PM PDT by sinkspur ( Don Cheech. Vito Corleone would like to meet you......Vito Corleone.....)
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To: Just A Nobody

AMNESTY!

Does that mean that Reagan's amnesty was right? No.
If Free Republic was around then, and we had a 9/11, I would be raising heck over that amnesty as well.


204 posted on 06/04/2006 5:55:49 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: nuconvert

President Bush has done yoeman work in the WOT. He would be more effective in that war if he was not so pig headed(principled), take your choice, concerning illegal aliens.


205 posted on 06/04/2006 5:56:29 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: sinkspur

I hope not... I really think we should be starting a 'Draft Rep Pence' movement.


206 posted on 06/04/2006 5:56:54 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: NittanyLion; Moonman62
You both seem to be missing the OBVIOUS fact that Bush has been beaten to a bloody pulp by people claiming that Reagan was SO much better.

It has become necessary to 'tear down Reagan' by pointing to the historic FACT that he made mistakes.

But it is only his deification created in order to beat up Bush that has made it necessary.

No whining by the guilty party, please..........

207 posted on 06/04/2006 5:57:03 PM PDT by ohioWfan (PROUD Mom of an Iraq War VET! THANKS, son!!!!)
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To: tennmountainman
Oh riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight and that's WHY Reagan lost seats in both Houses, when he was president and President Bush has yet to. LOL
208 posted on 06/04/2006 5:57:28 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Dawnsblood

"I totally doubt it. Recognizing and countering the threat of militant Islam put him in at least the top 10 IMHO."

Well, it has yet to be determined whether GWB's moves against terror will be enduring. If, as I suspect is quite possible, that Afghanistan and Iraq return to the typical muslim state of dysfunction within 5 years, what will GWB have accomplished that merits a place in the top 10?

Recognizing a problem doesn't get you a place in history. Unambiguously solving one MIGHT get you one. Hence, Reagan has his place amongst the greatest of presidents.

What you say could happen, but I think history will show otherwise for the reasons I've outlined.


209 posted on 06/04/2006 5:57:31 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: TatieBug
Oh yea...tax cuts...

Zippety-doo. They're "temporary". Deck chair rearrangement on the Titantic. He had a shot at enacting fundamental tax reform, and didn't have the guts.

2 conservative Supreme Court Justices...

As yet untested, and only under tremendous pressure from the very people that this President's political advises despise...conservatives.

...personally campaigned and helped increase the Senate by 5 seats in a off year which isn't supposed to happen...Talent, DeMint, Coleman, Ensign, Sununu. Sorry if if my memory didn't serve me exact but think it's pretty close...and President Bush worked hard for each of them.

The chosen few. His political people actively opposed many conservatives in congressional races over the course of the last six years, and when their RINO candidates lost primaries, gave the conservative nominees no funds and no active support. The seats won were in spite of them, not because of them, largely.

The unemployment number is presently at 4.6%.

Last time I checked, presidents don't create jobs...except in the public sector. How many new government jobs have been created under the massive new spending this government has enacted, I wonder...

I feel these are some biggies but, yea I know...the WAR...guess that offsets all the good in your eyes.

I support the war, except when the ninnies at the State Department are rolling out the red carpet for terrorists like Abu Mazen, or forcing Israel to cede land to terrorists.

Not in mine when we haven't been hit again since 911 in OUR COUNTRY...any credit there?

Yep, I give them credit for that. But they've been lucky, considering the millions that have crossed our borders unchecked and without knowing who they are since they took office. The jury is still out on how hard that can still come back and bite us.

Giv'em a little credit for working hard every day to protect us instead of having steak dinners for Hollywood everynight...that would be so much more fun.

"Better than Clinton" is not exactly the epitaph you really want for this administration, is it?

210 posted on 06/04/2006 5:57:55 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (I'll believe in the efficacy of a "virtual fence" when they put one around the White House...)
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To: NittanyLion

I think you mean one moderate and one conservative.


211 posted on 06/04/2006 5:58:18 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: wagglebee

On this issue, and it is the one that counts the most, the President is right on target.


212 posted on 06/04/2006 5:58:22 PM PDT by quesera
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Freedom's return to:
Communist Cuba
Communist Vietnam
Communist North Korea
as well as
Freedom's arrivial to:
All the countries of the Middle East


All that in 2.5 years? Did he put this in writing?
213 posted on 06/04/2006 5:58:43 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: RFEngineer

He honestly has tried with all him might and keeps fighting for it. If the next President loses faith, I won't fault Dubya.


214 posted on 06/04/2006 5:59:11 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: EternalVigilance

What you see as "tearing down Reagan" is really being realistic about Reagan, rather than worshiping like so many on this website and on talk radio do.


215 posted on 06/04/2006 5:59:34 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Dawnsblood

:-)


216 posted on 06/04/2006 6:00:17 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: sinkspur
Not me.

I'll keep that in mind. ;-)

Seriously, there's merit to what you state. The electorate does seem to like big-government pols, so it isn't particularly surprising that's what we get. I think a strong/articulate president could argue the case for small government, but don't believe Bush is that person. And that isn't a criticism - I just think that's not where he feels he needs to focus.

217 posted on 06/04/2006 6:00:22 PM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: Dawnsblood

Yes. :-)


218 posted on 06/04/2006 6:00:41 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Txsleuth

Reagan was a damn good man... but not perfect


219 posted on 06/04/2006 6:00:54 PM PDT by Dawnsblood
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To: EternalVigilance

I wouldn't want you at my back, you'd be likely to turn...Why don't you run for President since you seem to be the only one that can do a good job????


220 posted on 06/04/2006 6:01:11 PM PDT by Jewels1091
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