COMMUNE SEX SHOCKER

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[Free ThinkerNY]

COMMUNE SEX SHOCKER

SECRETS OF THE S.I. 'GUNSHOT' HIPPIE HAVEN

By HEATHER GILMORE

June 4, 2006 -- A hippie-style, hilltop commune on Staten Island has turned the '60s peace-and-love philosophy on its head, pressuring members into sex, green-card marriages, pill-popping and wacky sex sessions with a shrink, two ex-members claim. Those who refused were shuffled into the worst lodgings and pressured to leave, the defectors said.

Ganas, where a co-founder was ambushed and shot six days ago by a former member of the commune, has become a virtual paradise lost.

"They say they are all about peace and living in harmony, but they are really the evil-doers," said Walter Enquist, a former freelance journalist who said he left the hippie haven in 1999 after a 21/2-year stint.

"I never felt comfortable there - it wasn't your typical hippie way of life."

The Monday-night shooting of Ganas co-founder Jeff Gross has turned the glare of public attention on the kooky collective as cops continue the hunt for alleged shooter Rebekah Johnson, 43, a former Ganas member.

[operation clinton cleanup]

How on Earth did she end up with this scumbag?

[Gay State Conservative]

I,for one,could *never* be a criminal defense lawyer.I've even heard Dershowitz admit that in this country,an overwhelming percentage of those officially charged with a serious crime are,in fact,guilty.

Yes,Perry Mason had the luxury of having had clients who were *all* innocent but today most defense lawyers would go hungry pretty quick if they were to only defend the truly "innocent".

[Gay State Conservative]

How on Earth did she end up with this scumbag?

I guess that having grown up in the genteel,God fearing suburbs of Texas,she just couldn't comprehend that there are charming,smooth talking *pure sociopaths* in this world.

[nmh]

"And I suppose 'godly authority' is the authority you claim to have or that which you approve."

"I promise you, nmh, no apostolic authority passed down to you or anybody you know or ever heard about."

The authority I refer to and you take offense to is that instructed in the Bible. That is the authority I refer to and Whom the aposstles were inspired by and written for the benefit of mankind.

BTW, do NOT speak for me:

"I promise you, nmh, no apostolic authority passed down to you or anybody you know or ever heard about."

You've made it quite clear that you also reject authority from ANY source. I suppose NO authority but your own is goof enough despite how fallible it is.

BTW, thanks for bringing my point home.

[nmh]

"And I suppose 'godly authority' is the authority you claim to have or that which you approve."

"I promise you, nmh, no apostolic authority passed down to you or anybody you know or ever heard about."

The authority I refer to and you take offense to is that instructed in the Bible. That is the authority I refer to and Whom the apostles were inspired by and written for the benefit of mankind.

BTW, do NOT speak for me:

"I promise you, nmh, no apostolic authority passed down to you or anybody you know or ever heard about."

You've made it quite clear that you also reject authority from ANY source. I suppose NO authority but your own is goof enough despite how fallible it is.

BTW, thanks for bringing my point home.

[operation clinton cleanup]

Defense lawyers have gone from making sure a suspect gets a fair trial to getting them off at any cost.. or at least a favorable plea bargain.

[Lester Moore]

The authority I refer to and you take offense to is that instructed in the Bible.

I am not offended by God or his authority and that causes me to wonder what illegitimate authority, which you mistakenly believe to be from Scripture, do you wish I'd submit? I am offended by those that try to posit themselves as authorities between me and God and his word.

I assure you there is no chain of command such as,
God > somebody else > me.

We are all at best equal, saved by grace, members of the Body of Christ and no member of the Body of Christ is above another and none of us is a substitute head. Christ alone is the head.

I hope that helped your understanding of the things of God.

[nmh]

Me: The authority I refer to and you take offense to is that instructed in the Bible.

You: I am not offended by God or his authority and that causes me to wonder what illegitimate authority, which you mistakenly believe to be from Scripture, do you wish I'd submit? I am offended by those that try to posit themselves as authorities between me and God and his word.

Me: Clearly in your previous reply you stated that even the apostles had NO authority. What is written in the Bible is inspired and that includes the Apostles, which YOU reject - at least according to THAT reply. I am not your authority nor would I want to be HOWEVER His authority is the same for me as well as you. IN others words, stealing is wrong for you or me. The rest of the teachings really aren't mysterious either.

You: I assure you there is no chain of command such as,
God > somebody else > me.

Again, the teachings in the Bible apply to me as well as you if you are a Christian. Perhaps you are not. In any event, your problem seems to be accepting the authority or instruction of anyone. You don't want someone telling you that stealing is wrong. If fact, I doubt you find that acceptable from the apostles that you clearly object to.

You: We are all at best equal, saved by grace, members of the Body of Christ and no member of the Body of Christ is above another and none of us is a substitute head. Christ alone is the head.

Me: That's reassuring. As members of His body we are also to gently reprove those that go astray.

You:I hope that helped your understanding of the things of God.

Me: Yeah, that helps but denying the authority of the Apostles is troubling and their inspired teachings.

[ladyinred]

ROTFL! Good one!

[Lester Moore]

I'm not sure how the leap from my, "I promise you, nmh, no apostolic authority passed down to you or anybody you know or ever heard about." to your, "Clearly in your previous reply you stated that even the apostles had NO authority." happened, but it is quite a leap nonetheless.