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Let North Texans decide (Trans-Texas Corridor)
Fort Worth Star-Telegram ^ | June 4, 2006 | Editorial

Posted on 06/04/2006 12:10:42 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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1 posted on 06/04/2006 12:10:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: TxDOT; 1066AD; 185JHP; Abcdefg; Adrastus; Alamo-Girl; antivenom; anymouse; AprilfromTexas; ...

Trans-Texas Corridor PING!


2 posted on 06/04/2006 12:11:46 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How do you like Jerome Corsi's expose of this NAFTA/ChiCom superhighway? Our ports aren't big enough to accommodate the Chinese super ships plus dealing with longshoremen is a huge headache. The solution is to off load ChiCom crap in new Mexican mega-harbors and transport the boodle via truck and rail to the USA


3 posted on 06/04/2006 12:19:22 PM PDT by dennisw (We should return to calling them Muhammadans -- Worshippers of Muhammad and maybe Allah)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Many D/FW-area officials, business leaders and transportation experts want the corridor to run up the Metroplex's middle, along the path of an extended Texas 360 and on to Dallas/Fort Worth Airport

Sounds like they want a local service tollroad. This is moving cargo greater distances. Why doesn't Dallas-Ft.Worth build their own toll road system if they want one?

And I hope they don't consider the option that Austin is, take existing highways (built with public money) and make them into toll roads.

4 posted on 06/04/2006 12:24:49 PM PDT by weegee (Slowly but surely and deliberately, converativism is being made a thoughtcrime.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

BTTT


5 posted on 06/04/2006 12:26:33 PM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: E.G.C.

At the risk of providing an objective, outside view, I just ask, how can these two views be different? Only patronage politics could make them seem different.


6 posted on 06/04/2006 12:28:52 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: dennisw

Our ports aren't big enough to accommodate the Chinese super ships plus dealing with longshoremen is a huge headache. The solution is to off load ChiCom crap in new Mexican mega-harbors and transport the boodle via truck and rail to the USA



Walmart has already made a major change and opened up a huge container off loading facitility at the Port of Houston. They left the west coast because of the traffic and labor problems and decided to use the Panama canal with smaller ships. They will be bring some 20 to 28% of their container imports via the Houston facility....

http://www.bizjournals.com/bizspace/houston/local_column/?story_id=1103985


7 posted on 06/04/2006 12:34:23 PM PDT by deport
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

NO way man, we're the govt. and we know what's best for you now give me some more of your money and shut up.


8 posted on 06/04/2006 1:40:51 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (an enemy of islam)
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To: dennisw

How much you wanna bet NIMBYs and enviros are also partially responsible for this situation?


9 posted on 06/04/2006 1:50:44 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: weegee
Sounds like they want a local service tollroad. This is moving cargo greater distances. Why doesn't Dallas-Ft.Worth build their own toll road system if they want one?

I was thinking the same thing: why don't they build their own road? Is it really that difficult to raise toll bonds for a separate road, rather than try and impose conditions on somebody else's?

10 posted on 06/04/2006 1:52:27 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (One flag--American. One language--English. One allegiance--to America!)
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To: deport

Walmart also has a regional distro in Sanger off I35.

Why not just widen I35?


11 posted on 06/04/2006 2:25:07 PM PDT by rahbert
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How about a big fat NO WAY


12 posted on 06/04/2006 2:38:33 PM PDT by GeronL (Bush lost his mojo??)
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To: rahbert; deport; Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Why not just widen I35?

Where?

The existing I-35 right of way is rather narrow, because it was one of the first interstate highways laid out in Texas. The TxDoT engineers didn't put in enough room for entrance and exit lanes or enough separation between opposing lanes of traffic. The incredibly heavy traffic and substandard separation of opposing lanes has lead to quite a few horrific accidents in which cars left their lanes ran across the median and collided head on with opposing traffic especially in bad weather and fog. Notice that now concrete barriers have been erected to prevent future head on collisions. In order to do the current expansion from 2 to 3 lanes in each direction, it was necessary to completely rebuild the entire highway rather than just add on an addtional lane. There is quite a bit of develped land along both sides of I-35 all the way from San Antonio to Hillsboro. It would be cheaper to buy bigger new undeveloped rights of way than to buy up expensive developed land adjacent to the existing higway. It is also cheaper and faster to build a new state of the art highway designed based on the experience of the last several decades than to expand I-35 while periodically rerouting its traffic to keep it open during construction.

13 posted on 06/04/2006 3:01:56 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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I35 is a local off/on or more of a commuter type roadway. The TTC is supposed to be long haul with limited access on/off designed to move traffic long distances at rapid speed. Like this article is complaining about using 360 through the metroplex..... totally out of context with the purpose.


14 posted on 06/04/2006 3:06:19 PM PDT by deport
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To: dennisw

Aren't that many virgin, undeveloped, deep-water harbors on the West Coast left, but I suspect you know that.


15 posted on 06/04/2006 3:08:49 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: weegee
And I hope they don't consider the option that Austin is, take existing highways (built with public money) and make them into toll roads.

Austin didn't do that. None of the toll roads were built as free roads. The tolling was to speed up the start of construction of roads that otherwise wouldn't yet be under construction if done via traditional financing.

16 posted on 06/04/2006 3:46:47 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: deport
I35 is a local off/on or more of a commuter type roadway. The TTC is supposed to be long haul with limited access on/off designed to move traffic long distances at rapid speed. Like this article is complaining about using 360 through the metroplex..... totally out of context with the purpose.

But the Fort Worth is a very important rail switching center. They want the jobs currently in the Fort Worth associated with the rail facilities to stay near Forth Worth and the metroplex. They don't want them moved to the east side of Dallas.

17 posted on 06/04/2006 4:31:13 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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Aren't that many virgin, undeveloped, deep-water harbors on the West Coast left, but I suspect you know that.

Even if there were, the NIMBY's would file so many lawsuits it would take 30 years to build a new port there. Can you imagine how many environmental studies there would be financed with federal dollars just to find new endangered species at any proposed site.

18 posted on 06/04/2006 4:34:33 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative

I am astounded that folks cannot understand that ports don't simply pop-up like mushrooms after a rain. If there is a demand for it, it will be built. If you don't like the idea that one will be built in Mexico, build one in the U.S. I assure you, if the demand exists, one will be built somewhere . . . black helicopter riding globalists or not.


19 posted on 06/04/2006 4:37:48 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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If you don't like the idea that one will be built in Mexico, build one in the U.S. I assure you, if the demand exists, one will be built somewhere . . . black helicopter riding globalists or not.

I'm all in favor of mega ports getting built on the Pacific coast of Mexico. They would create jobs in Mexico so people don't have to come to the US to have economic opportunity. I'm just saying that the NIMBY's in California and other west coast states would block just about any proposal to build new ports there. By connecting Mexican ports via toll roads and new high speed rail corridors to the Texas TTC, there is the potential for huge economic benefits to Texas in transporting and warehousing goods coming from those ports.

20 posted on 06/04/2006 4:43:44 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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