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First troops in Bush's border plan arrive
AP on Yahoo ^ | 6/3/06 | Jacques Billeaud - ap

Posted on 06/03/2006 8:48:42 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

PHOENIX - Fifty-five National Guard members from Utah arrived in Yuma on Saturday afternoon — the first troops to be sent to the Arizona-Mexico border in a new crackdown on illegal immigration.

The Utah troops had been scheduled to work on fences and other projects as part of the Guard's long-standing efforts at the Arizona border, officials had said as late as Wednesday. But their mission has since been folded into President Bush's plan to send up to 6,000 National Guard troops to the four southern border states to supplement federal immigration agents.

The Utah troops got word of the change Friday from Guard officials in Washington, D.C., said Maj. Hank McIntire, a spokesman for the Utah National Guard.

They are scheduled to be briefed on their mission Sunday and start field work as early as Monday, he said.

Under the president's plan, troops will perform support duties to allow federal authorities to focus on border security. They won't perform law enforcement duties.

The Utah troops, who will not carry weapons, will be in Yuma for two weeks to install improved lighting at a border crossing, extend an existing border fence and build a road, McIntire said.

The projects will be done in the area of San Luis, Ariz., a town 25 miles south of Yuma with a fortified stretch of border with Mexico.

The town is part of the nation's busiest U.S. Border Patrol station, in a state that is the nation's busiest illegal entry point.

A 12-foot corrugated metal fence divides San Luis from Mexico, reinforced 50 yards to the north by an 8-foot chain-link fence topped with barbed wire and towers with surveillance cameras. Stadium lights help agents spot those who try to slip across at night.

Gov. Janet Napolitano proposed a similar plan in December, but it remained on the shelf while funding was sought.

Officials say 300 National Guard soldiers from Arizona are expected to begin arriving at the state's border in mid-June.

About 170 National Guard troops are already helping federal and state officers there with communications, fence construction and anti-drug efforts.

The National Guard has been providing such assistance along the Arizona border for more than 15 years.

Troops from the Utah Guard were deployed to Iraq in 2004 and 2005 and helped with recovery efforts following Hurricanes Katrina and Rita, McIntire said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona; US: California; US: New Mexico; US: Texas; War on Terror
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To: Kakaze

The emphasis of the NG will be on providing training, auxiliary support and also in building up an infrastructure along the border to support the increased number of troops and border patrol to be included in this border mission. This will likely include new communication, transportation , holding facilities and living areas.

The 115th has the talents that the doctor ordered as the mission starts out. Expect more of the same is the best bet.


61 posted on 06/04/2006 9:21:32 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - "The Road to Peace in the Middle East runs thru Damascus.")
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To: Terabitten

Thanks for the infomation. It is very interesting. I think Article I Sec.10 would govern this situation because it is illegal for states to enter into any agreement without the consent of Congress unless there is an emergency that will not admit for delay. The fact that the NG is not being allowed to use guns is ridiculous, but it also implies a lack of urgency. This section does however, provide that states may enter into compacts if actually invaded. The ironic part is that by urging the states to do this Bush is implicitly admitting legally that the US is being invaded. In any case, here is Article I Sec.10:

No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.


62 posted on 06/04/2006 3:36:11 PM PDT by old republic
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To: All

I live in Washington State. All day today and over the weekend, our local radio stations have been broadcasting that the Governors of both Washington (illegally elected Christine Gregoire) and Oregon have told their respective National Guard units they DO NOT HAVE TO GO TO THE BORDER IF THEY DON'T WANT TO, that this order should be voluntary. I understand that is not the case coming from the White House when the President ordered it. Does anyone know more about this, and since when can a state pick and choose what they will or won't do. Border security is just that, BORDER SECURITY!


63 posted on 06/05/2006 3:31:57 PM PDT by cousair
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To: thoughtomator
You should check out the polls that consistently put 80%+ of the American public on my side of this issue.

The polls are lies until election day. Where is the leader who is ready to galvanize the angry and ignored American electorate? Why do no men of stature choose to side with this mythic 80% you claim is on your side. Why does the rat media prop up a pip squeak congressmen Tancredo who can't advance to even a statewide seat, and speech writer Buchanan who captured an asterisk in 2000. Where are your hero Senators and Governors? I believe reality over media sponsored polls. When I see both rats and Republicans embrace deporting illegals on cargo trains then I will believe 80% is on your side. Right now I doubt over 20% of Americans care about immigration one way or the other. Your faith of polls in the face of common sense is remarkable, but I suppose if polls were saying what I wanted to hear I would want to believe them also.

I think there will be more seat turnover within the GOP than between parties, as those willing to sell our country to Vincente Fox find out that Americans aren't too happy about becoming second-class citizens in our own country.

Well if you and the 80% are going to knock off bad Republicans in the primaries you better get cracking. Of the 233 House GOPers, 158 have already been renominated by the party.

It will be fun to watch the polls as we near Nov and discover the rats, once again, have swallowed the media poll koolaid and lost the elections. The GOP will add seats in the Senate and retain a majority in the House. Here in WI we will win back the Governors seat and the AG seat.

Men of reason will hold their noses if they must but they will vote GOP. The alternative is rat rule.

64 posted on 06/10/2006 10:35:11 PM PDT by Once-Ler (The rat 06 election platform will be a promise to impeach the President if they win)
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To: Terabitten
I read your homepage and learned something, thank you. It really cleared up my head.

So, based on that, isn't it absurd to send unarmed troops to the border?

I.e., can they not carry out their engineering duties while carrying a weapon? How does that work when they are doing the same thing in Iraq? Aren't there at least armed troops standing guard?

It seems unwise, to say the least, to be anywhere near our southern border without a weapon.

65 posted on 06/10/2006 10:58:42 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God Bless Our Troops...including U.S. Border Patrol, America's First Line of Defense)
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To: old republic
Thanks for the infomation. It is very interesting. I think Article I Sec.10 would govern this situation because it is illegal for states to enter into any agreement without the consent of Congress unless there is an emergency that will not admit for delay. The fact that the NG is not being allowed to use guns is ridiculous, but it also implies a lack of urgency. This section does however, provide that states may enter into compacts if actually invaded. The ironic part is that by urging the states to do this Bush is implicitly admitting legally that the US is being invaded. In any case, here is Article I Sec.10: No State shall, without the Consent of Congress, lay any duty of Tonnage, keep Troops, or Ships of War in time of Peace, enter into any Agreement or Compact with another State, or with a foreign Power, or engage in War, unless actually invaded, or in such imminent Danger as will not admit of delay.

Article I Section 10 doesn't say that states cannot have agreements with each other - it says that states cannot enter into such compacts without consent of Congress. I believe that there is a longstanding consent for use of National Guard troops (along with about a billion other topics that various states have agreements with each other on.)

66 posted on 06/11/2006 2:40:48 PM PDT by Terabitten (The only time you can have too much ammunition is when you're swimming.)
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To: cousair
I live in Washington State. All day today and over the weekend, our local radio stations have been broadcasting that the Governors of both Washington (illegally elected Christine Gregoire) and Oregon have told their respective National Guard units they DO NOT HAVE TO GO TO THE BORDER IF THEY DON'T WANT TO, that this order should be voluntary. I understand that is not the case coming from the White House when the President ordered it. Does anyone know more about this, and since when can a state pick and choose what they will or won't do. Border security is just that, BORDER SECURITY!

Unless the Federal Government "federalizes" the National Guard, they belong to the state governor. Now, the FedGov has a BIG stick in this, in that the FedGov provides around 95% of the funding for the National Guards of most states. So, Washington state and Oregon both risk essentially losing their NG units if the Federal Gov't pulls the funding for them. The Department of the Army would likely just convert those units to US Army Reserve instead of Army National Guard. The Governor can't touch USAR.

67 posted on 06/11/2006 2:46:22 PM PDT by Terabitten (The only time you can have too much ammunition is when you're swimming.)
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To: La Enchiladita
I read your homepage and learned something, thank you. It really cleared up my head. I.e., can they not carry out their engineering duties while carrying a weapon? How does that work when they are doing the same thing in Iraq? Aren't there at least armed troops standing guard?

Typically, they would still carry their personal weapons (M4 rifle) slung on their back while they worked. I think they should be armed for this mission as well. Often times, however, an infantry unit will be detailed to provide security for an engineer (or other specialty troop) unit. Who knows, USBP may be providing security for them, God knows they've got enough firepower.

68 posted on 06/11/2006 2:49:58 PM PDT by Terabitten (The only time you can have too much ammunition is when you're swimming.)
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To: Terabitten

Thanks again. I know that states can enter into compacts with the consent of Congress, but they cannot without Congress' consent barring any extraordinary circumstances. I'm interested in knowing that if there are agreements about the NG what are the names of the legal agreements, what are the terms of such agreements, and when were they approved by Congress.


69 posted on 06/11/2006 5:33:33 PM PDT by old republic
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To: Terabitten

Thanks for your answer. I knew the Gov had that power, but I guess border security isn't an issue unless the President makes it so and federalizes the NG. My main reason for the remark was that nowhere in the MSM has this been reported to my knowledge.


70 posted on 06/12/2006 7:17:57 AM PDT by cousair
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