[Miss Marple]

Someone posted a discussion about the labor problem the other day, but he was shouted down. The people who are pressing for no guest worker program, deportation, and a huge wall do not believe that it will affect our economy negatively. They believe there will be a cost saving from not having to pay for teachers in the southwestern states, welfare, and emergency room services.

I don't think this savings will get passed on to the taxpayer, myself. Past history has shown me that the teachers' unions will fight to keep those jobs, and that the welfare and emergency room savings won't get passed on to the average citizen either. That money will simply be transferred to another budget item, and we will be left with a diminished labor force who will demand higher wages (good for those workers) and thus higher prices (not good for any of us).

I am not an economist, but these things seem pretty obvious to me. Since the President has to consider ALL ramifications rather than just pleasing the slogan-ranters, I would imagine that is the reason he has favored a fairly liberal guest worker program.

Of course, this is not what a lot of people believe. Instead, they believe his decision is because he is being blackmailed by Vicente Fox or has sentimental memories of Hispanic workers from his childhood. It's much easier to make fun of him that way, you see.

[Plutarch]

I would imagine that is the reason he has favored a fairly liberal guest worker program.

Miss Marple, it is not a guest worker program. Bush favors the Senate Bill, which provides for permanent legal residence to every illegal who can obtain a forged utility bill. Which means all of them. If a guest stays permanently in your house, he isn't really a guest is he?

Bush addressed the Chamber of Commerce Thursday, whose members enjoy higher profits from cheap labor. Do you suppose that the donations of these businesses to Bush and the RNC might have anything to do with Bush's support for amnesty?

[Dat Mon]

you said..."I am not an economist, but these things seem pretty obvious to me. Since the President has to consider ALL ramifications rather than just pleasing the slogan-ranters, I would imagine that is the reason he has favored a fairly liberal guest worker program."

Has the President considered the ramifications of this bill, as outlined by Jeff Sessions, Rob Rector, and Kris Kobach?

Have you?

Frankly, I dont see how any reasonably well informed Conservative, having read the numerous posts on FR outlining the effects of the Senate bill, being aware of the pedigree of the bill, and the liberal history of its principle author (Kennedy), and, having investigated Steve Camaratas site and study on the cost of legalization of illegals....

Steve Camarota Study on Legalization Costs

could possibly come up with the conclusions you have drawn.

There is no rationalization or excuse that justifies pushing a liberal / leftist agenda.

Most are not falling for it, as far as I can tell.