Posted on 06/02/2006 3:31:30 PM PDT by John Jorsett
Roger Hedgecock, talk show host on KOGO AM600 in San Diego, is playing a recording made covertly at a meeting last night. The meeting was an event held by the Francine Busby campaign. Busby is the Democrat candidate for California's 50th Congressional District, vacated by disgraced crook Republican Randy "Duke" Cunningham. The meeting was with an audience of Hispanic attendees and only Spanish-language media was invited. Busby addressed them through an interpreter.
On the tape, a man is heard saying that he didn't "have papers" and asking how he could help. Busby replies, in part, "You can all help. You don't need papers for voting. You don't need to be a registered voter to help."
Maybe Busby meant that you don't need to present papers in order to be allowed to vote, but it sounds more to me like she's saying that you don't need to be here legally to vote.
""Her ads say she is against amnesty but her website says she is for McCain Kennedy..""
That's a tricky lie two ways. The second is there is no McCain/Kennedy any more. It's the Hegel/Martinez bill.
But of course she wants to say the word "McCain" as much as she can.
"On the tape, a man is heard saying that he didn't "have papers""
Don't want to be testy, but are you sure about that?
All the interpreter said was "He wants to help."
Busby lurkers here might have read what you relayed here and took it to heart.
Admittedly I didn't understand the Spanish speaker, but I think it highly unlikely, or unwise, he would say "I don't have papers."
well the volume was low but what I heard (in spanish) from the person asking the question (and the interpreter repeated)was that he didn't have papers to vote...
"well the volume was low but what I heard (in spanish) from the person asking the question (and the interpreter repeated)was that he didn't have papers to vote...
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Thanks. I stand corrected. I put my ear close to the speaker and you are right. "Papers" was mentioned, probably by the interpreter in the quieter early part. The interpreter talked louder later because he was speaking to an audience. I suppose the questioner was standing near Busby and interpreter.
Despite my mistake, still a bad show for Busby. She sort of corrected herself but one shouldn't make mistakes like that in an election.
Busby claimed the questioner was "in the back" and hard for her to hear.
Make no mistake, she'd welcome the illegals with a smile, Democrat voter registration and endless "free" social services.
While McCain was (allegedly) disinvited to the fundraiser, he has done recorded calls in support of Bilbray. A neighbor got one today.
Thanks very much!
I definitely heard "papeles para votar" at the 0:19-0:20 in the Busby_Long.mp3 file. Everybody knows that a foreigner lacking "papers" is an illegal alien -- that is, the vocabulary always refers to aliens without the proper paperwork to permit legal residence (let alone citizenship!) and also without documents to allow them to work.
Also, at 0:29-0:30 Busby asks the interpreter, "but, they're, they're not," and at 0:31 the interpreter confirms, "they're not." Busby replies at 0:33 "Oh, well, sure, everybody can help... you don't need papers for voting." It is clear that she knew the question was specifically about undocumented aliens who wanted to help.
0:02 They say they want to help, but they don't have papers.
0:07 But, they're, they're not.
0:09 They're-they're not. It looks like they want to help.
0:11 Oh, well, sure, everybody can help.
0:12 [unintelligible] Yeah, okay?
0:13 Yeah, absolutely. The, um, you can all help.
0:17 Todo se puede ayudar. [= You all can help]
0:18 Yeah, you don't need papers for voting. You don't need to be a registered voter to help.
Good work, heleny.
My favorite part of this story is that it was a secret, non English speaking meeting of mostly men and two women, which was infiltrated by a Minuteman with a tape recorder.
God bless the Minutemen.
Buzzbee izz Buzzted!
Anyone fluent with the Spanish language should be able to hear much more from the parts I could not understand.
Interpreter or others in plain face, Busby in bold.
0:00 A ver, si tiene preguntas para la sen~ora Busby? Hay preguntas, por favor? Si' sen`or. [= if you have questions for Mrs. Busby? Are there any questions, please? Yes, sir.]
0:09 [unintelligible] 0:16 ... ayudar, pero, que, que pienso [unintelligible] los papeles para votar [= ... to help, but, um, um, I think... the papers to vote.]>br? 0:22 Busby: They want me to [unintelligible] them?
0:24 No, they say they, they want to help, but they don't, they don't have papers.
0:29 You want to answer them?
0:30 Busby: But, they're, they're not.
0:31 They're-they're not. It looks like they want to help.
0:33 Busby: Oh, well, sure, everybody can help.
0:35 Yeah, okay?
0:36 Busby: Yeah, absolutely. The, um, you can all help.
0:39 Todo se puede ayudar. [= You all can help]
0:41 Busby: Yeah, you don't need papers for voting. You don't need to be a registered voter to help.
0:44 [Spanish translation of Busby]
0:49 Busby: Because you're the w-, You know, uh, people ask me, "What am I doing to reach out to, to your community?" And I will do everything I can to support you, to promote policies that are supportive of your education and healthcare and families.
1:03 Busby, continued: But, I can't, I can't bring people to vote for me. Only you can do that.
1:09 [Spanish interpretation]
1:19 Busby: And so we have staff members here who will be working with your leaders.
1:23 [Spanish interpretation]
1:27 Busby: And they'll explain, they'll give your information to go with it, both in English and Spanish
1:33 [Spanish interpretation]
1:36 Busby: And, and they'll, they'll, uh, give you information on how to do this.
1:40 [Spanish interpretation]
1:44 Busby: Are (we ready) to talk about that? [unintelligible reply] And that we'll coordinate with all your groups that you've already....
Bilbray's campaign ought to do some audio processing to make the recording clearer, and then ensure that it gets lots of airtime now for the Special election and so that people don't forget by November (whether Bilbray or some other GOP candidate wins the Primary).
Busby sounded sure of what the questioner asked/implied (illegal aliens supporting Busby), and her response fully addresses the question (encouraging them to vote fraudulently and to help get others to vote).
You must've put a ton of time into this transcription.
It's obvious and very clear.
I hope it sees the light of day for many months to come.
This should just about do it for Bilbray and push him to victory.
They are just doing jobs Americans won't do!
More coverage from the San Diego Union Tribune this morning. The mods deleted my thread so I think they want me to post it here, ha ha ha.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/50thdistrict/20060603-9999-1mi3busby.html
Busby on defense, says she misspoke
By Dani Dodge
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER
June 3, 2006
If an election can turn on a sentence, this could be the one: “You don't need papers for voting.”
On Thursday night, Francine Busby, the Democratic candidate for the 50th Congressional District, was speaking before a largely Latino crowd in Escondido when she uttered those words. She said yesterday she simply misspoke.
But someone taped it and a recording began circulating yesterday. After she made that statement at the meeting, Busby immediately said: “You don't need to be a registered voter to help (the campaign).”
She said that subsequent statement was to clarify what she meant.
The recording, which was played yesterday on Roger Hedgecock's radio talk show, jolted the campaign.
Busby, a Cardiff school board member, is in a tight race with Republican Brian Bilbray, a congressman-turned-lobbyist, who has based his campaign on a tough anti-illegal-immigration stance. Busby has focused her campaign on ethics reform. The two are vying to replace Randy “Duke” Cunningham, who was jailed after pleading guilty to taking bribes.
Busby said she was invited to the forum at the Jocelyn Senior Center in Escondido by the leader of a local soccer league. Many of the 50 or so people there were Spanish speakers. Toward the end, a man in the audience asked in Spanish: “I want to help, but I don't have papers.”
It was translated and Busby replied: “Everybody can help, yeah, absolutely, you can all help. You don't need papers for voting, you don't need to be a registered voter to help.”
Bilbray said at worst, Busby was encouraging someone to vote illegally. At best, she was encouraging someone who is illegally in the country to work on her campaign.
“She's soliciting illegal aliens to campaign for her and it's on tape – this isn't exactly what you call the pinnacle of ethical campaign strategy,” Bilbray said. “I don't know how she shows her face.”
The two later met in a debate in Carlsbad last night.
Earlier, San Diego Minutemen volunteer Anthony Porrello said he got the tape from an an anonymous Minuteman and passed it on to the news media and talk radio. News of the gathering had circulated among local Minutemen before the meeting, according to William Griffith, the independent candidate in the race who has been endorsed by the San Diego Minutemen.
He attended, but did not hear the statement. He said he was in the back of the room.
“I heard what I expected to hear from a Democrat who supports amnesty,” he said. Busby says she doesn't support amnesty, but backs the comprehensive plan pushed by U.S. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., that includes opening a path to citizenship for people in the United States illegally if they pay penalties and abide by certain conditions.
Busby said that Republicans are now twisting her words. She does not in any way support or advocate that illegal immigrants vote, she said.
“I was clarifying the question that was being asked in Spanish and then stated that you do not have to be a registered voter to help the campaign because there were many people who appeared to be to be under 18 in the group who wanted to volunteer,” she said in a statement. “I'm not surprised that the Republican Party is making this last-minute, desperate ploy and it is absolutely false.”
I prefer heleny's transcript over Buzzbee's spin.
Between that and self-described "conservative" Bill Hauf's attacks on Bilbray (Hauf is running in the GOP primary for the new term) and Bilbray is in a very tight spot.
WOW!
susie
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