Posted on 06/01/2006 8:15:24 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
If the charges are unwarranted, why doesn't the military refute them? Why did President Bush refer to the investigation yesterday, rather than saying terrorists killed the Iraqis, or the Marines are innocent?
The cleaning out of that shithole was and IS Priority #1.
And it will continue Treason Media or no.
If anyone in the military says anything about this incident after the investigation begins, the whole thing would have to be thrown out due to undo command influence.
---We are going to prosecute officers who had nothing to do with the killing, had nothing to do with a cover up, had no knowledge of the crime or cover up?
What exactly will they be charged with: being too focused on winning the war and keeping their men alive? ---
They will be charged with being disposable.
Because it is the military that is providing the anonymous sources for the media, leaking to blunt the effect of the report when it is released.
Nobody around here wants to see this, but it is the Marine Corps, itself, that is admitting that these attacks took place, by dribs and drabs on a daily basis.
People in the military have been speaking anonymously about this case recently, which is definitely after the investigation began. They have not refuted the charges, though, only given them more credence. Why is that?
Thanks, please remember one of the girls they interviewed, she looks to be a teenager. She says, "I want them, meaning the Americans, TORTURED and killed". I can't tell you how livid I am. The media of course keeps breathlessly reporting this as if it is a fact. This is the same town where the terrorists are beheading people all the time and she wants our Marines TORTURED!!!!
I don't know which video you're referring to, but the photographs were definitely taken by the Marines. That has not been disputed by anyone, even anonymously, and has been confirmed by the mother of one of the Marines who took the pictures.
Here is my point: IF this is a video of a massacre that supposedly took place in November 2005, why did it not surface until March 2006? Sunnis would have had this video on the web within hours!!
Personally I believe it did not surface until locals decided to create it! Why would they decide this? Because they KNOW the western media is gullible, easily manipulated and would take the word of terrorists over their own military and governments.
Or, maybe, a media person or two is directly involved in a fabrication (ala Blather)?
The video is of the "carnage". According to the Iraqis, this video is the scene of the "massacre".
There are HUGE problems with this whole thing. Check out the other threads about the Haditha doctor--the one who changed the death certificates from shrapnel wounds to close-range bullet holes. He is seriously anti-American and has an axe to grind. Sweetness & Light is all over this. The doctor was previously detained by US troops, and the reporter who broke this story, he was also detained. The "eye-witnesses" are all Iraqis.
Also the eye-witness stories have changed and evolved and most importantly--the bodies have never been examined! The investigators want to exhume the bodies for examination--to even establish how they died, and the Iraqis are denying this request.
Check out the thread about "Blood Money, Lies and Videotape" from Front Page Mag as well. This whole frame the military for massacre was done to the Brits.
I am seriously skeptical of these allegations.
And yet, our Commander In Chief did not give a strong defense of these Marines. No 'innocent until proven guilty'. Rather he says he is disturbed by media reports of the event. Media reports?? Is he kidding?
Very disappointing.
The question of whether innocent civilians were killed is irrelevant.
I guess FDR was a war criminal for Dresden and Truman for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
We will never win a war again as long as a POTUS lets the media and his political opponents continue to do this.
Lincoln and FDR put politicians and the press in jail for a lot less.
Pity our brave soldiers are dying and a bunch of clowns are running the PR war at home.
He cannot say anything strongly in their defense because anything he says could jeapordize the case as "undue influence". He is disturbed by the allegations. As we all should be. Unfortunately he cannot say more. None of the military leaders can either. I bet Rumsfeld wants to personally choke every news outlet that has breathlessly reported this.
I know I want to.
Regarding the last post, their are no anonymous commanders in the Marines, or the DoD.
" which is definitely after the investigation began.
The investigation began, because the Marine documents contained bogus info. When Time asked, they were told the families were killed by an IED. See my above link to xins. It will take you to an original story on the original release from Camp Blue Diamond.
" They have not refuted the charges, though, only given them more credence. Why is that?
It's called undo command influence. If anyone in authority says anything, it is said that- the command thinks the outcome should be this. It's their legal precedent/code.
Do you have any idea how ridiculous that statement sounds? Could you please cite one of these sources?
[Anonymous sources] have not refuted the charges, though, only given them more credence
Do you realize how asinine that statement is?
Tell you what I'm sick of...your stupid attacks against a President who literally cannot defend the Marines.
He cannot speak in terms of the investigation, he can only speak in terms of media reports. Anyone would be troubled if they go by the media reports. DUH. Because he cannot exert command influence under the rules of the Military or it would compromise its legal system.
General Pace and Secretary Rumsfeld are following the same path. To be equal, go ahead and attack them, too, hotshot.
Actually, I happen to have an anonymous source that disputes it.
and has been confirmed by the mother of one of the Marines who took the pictures
Oh, she was there when the pictures were taken? Unbelievable.
I want him OUT! I want that traitor OFF my TV and his bile removed from the airwaves.
Other than that, nice hat. ;^)
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