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Paul Craig Roberts: Evil in Our Government [barf]
NewsMax ^ | 5-30-06 | Paul Craig Roberts

Posted on 06/01/2006 5:34:00 PM PDT by Calif Conservative

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To: beckett
What are we doing in Iraq?

Crusing for chicks.

101 posted on 06/07/2006 11:44:58 AM PDT by Lazamataz (First we beat the Soviet Union. Then we became them.)
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To: Calif Conservative
The U.S. government murdered 500,000 Iraqi children prior to Bush's invasion.

DU-worthy.

102 posted on 06/07/2006 12:01:16 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: aculeus
The U.S. government murdered 500,000 Iraqi children prior to Bush's invasion.

What kind of hateful scumbag calls himself a conservative, yet lays the blame for these deaths at our door? If Saddam had used the food and medicine money for money for food and medicine instead of palaces with gold bidets, those kids would be alive today.

103 posted on 06/15/2006 9:43:53 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Try Jesus--If you don't like Him, satan will always take you back.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax; dighton; SE Mom

Carl, we're still waiting for an answer to our questons, see post 97 for mine. I edit a publication, and If somebody asked me why an article in my magazine was helping the jihadis, you can bet I'd have the stones to anser them. Do you?


104 posted on 06/15/2006 9:48:19 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Try Jesus--If you don't like Him, satan will always take you back.)
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To: beckett
didn't sign on for this, and neither, quite clearly, did Roberts or many other conservatives who understand how deepy UN-conservative Bush's Wilsonian policies are.

Bilge. If Bush is Wilsonian, then so was Harry Truman when he rebuilt Germany and Japan after WWII.

You say you didn't sign on for Iraq...did you sign on for Roberts' bizarre claim that none of the Axis of Evil countries have attacked anyone lately? Did you sign on for the claim that the U.S. government--not Saddam "I need 48 palaces" Hussein--killed 500,000 Iraqi children?

I want Osama's head on a platter. That would be an accomplishment for the administration, but, in over six years of trying and after hundreds of billions of dollars spent, they've been unable to deliver.

Would it be great if we got Osama? Yeah. But mostly I care if we stop attacks on the U.S., and that's been accomplished for almost five years now. Tell me: When you woke up on September 12, 2001, did you even dream that we would go 4 and a half years without getting hit again?

Oh, and here's where I share my...

The Big Five Questions of Ultimate Iraqi Wisdom!

As a conservative who opposes the liberation of Iraq, perhaps you would like to answer my Big Five Questions of Ultimate Iraqi Wisdom. There are few takers, but I’m sure you’ll answer up instead of hiding under your desk. Finish one or more of the following sentences and show us the boffo supra-genius reasoning that lead you to it:

1. Iraq was not a terrorist state, and my case for this assertion is...

2. Even though Iraq harbored, trained and funded terrorists, it was not a legitimate target because...

3. We should not be fighting the War on Terror at all because...

4. The current level of military casualties in a 4 year war that started with the slaughter of 3,000 noncombatants on our home soil in 90 minutes is a huge problem because...(Note: Before answering this question, you may want to review the number of casualties experienced by the U.S. in WWII, or at Shiloh or Cold Harbor, or in any particular week of the Tet Offensive.)

5. If we leave terrorist states up and running, I foresee the next major terrorist attack will be prevented by...

105 posted on 06/15/2006 10:00:19 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Try Jesus--If you don't like Him, satan will always take you back.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Late ping. See posts 97 and 104.


106 posted on 06/15/2006 10:01:27 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Try Jesus--If you don't like Him, satan will always take you back.)
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To: shempy
Paul Craig Roberts has some sort of mental illness that is getting progressively worse. I am serious, the guy needs help.

I agree with that assessment (and have posited that same theory here several times over the past three years). There was a time the man was a serious columnist, published in regular newspapers and everything. I believe he was even a member of the Reagan Administration. His deterioration has progressed steadily and I hope he has friends who can steer him to people who will provide careful and sympathetic professional help. No joke.

107 posted on 06/15/2006 10:01:48 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: labard1
He's a bright man who probably agrees with you on most issues. His view is rectally impaired on this one though.

You know, Benedict Arnold was an admirable man...except for this one area where he was rectally impaired...

108 posted on 06/15/2006 10:03:55 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Try Jesus--If you don't like Him, satan will always take you back.)
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To: Calif Conservative
"Isn't the real axis of evil Bush-Blair-Olmert? George Bush and Tony Blair have attacked two countries, slaughtering their citizens. Israel's Ehud Olmert is urging them on to attack a third country, Iran."

Roberts had to get in the usual "America does Israel's bidding" crack, typical of the whackjobs at LewRockwell. I'm surprised he didn't sprinkle in some "neocon Zionists" language.

"Why is the U.S. superpower orchestrating fear of puny Iran?"

A country the size of Iran with a population of 80 million is far from "puny," and this particular country is currently ruled by crazed Islamists intent on manufacturing nuclear weapons. Seems Roberts is deluded into believing the MAD (mutually assured destruction) policy that worked with the Soviets during the Cold War would work equally well with the Islamic world.

109 posted on 06/15/2006 10:20:23 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Calif Conservative

Who is Paul Craig Roberts?

More people have probably heard of Buckhead than have hear of this guy!

(Buckhead - Dan Rather end of life!)


110 posted on 06/15/2006 10:38:52 PM PDT by Prost1 (We can build a wall, we can evict - "Si, se puede!")
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To: Mr. Silverback
"Benedict Arnold was an admirable man"

Until "that traitor thing", he was THE greatest American general, and from a purely military perspective probably the most instrumental in saving the Republic (Washington was a master politician in keeping it all together, but his military win-loss record was abysmal).
111 posted on 06/19/2006 2:26:33 PM PDT by labard1
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To: labard1
Until "that traitor thing", he was THE greatest American general, and from a purely military perspective probably the most instrumental in saving the Republic (Washington was a master politician in keeping it all together, but his military win-loss record was abysmal).

I concur. Washington was one of the greats despite these problems because he held that army together when almost no one else could, and some of his successes (Trenton and Princeton come to mind) were briliant. Arnold left wealth to fight for the cause, and was a tough and brave soldier, and he probably saved the Revolution at Saratoga. If he'd had a smaller ego there might be a state named Arnold on the West Coast.

112 posted on 06/19/2006 5:26:27 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (My other car is a Herkimer Battle Jitney.)
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To: Calif Conservative

Proof that Paul Craig Roberts hates America at least as much as Rep. John Murtha, with a dash of Jew-hatred in the mix.


Or is it simply hatred of out-of-control government?


113 posted on 06/19/2006 5:29:57 PM PDT by WhiteGuy ("Stop being good Republicans. Start being good Americans.")
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To: Northern Yankee

Who is this guy, and why is he so stupid?
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Stop reading my mind. I was about to type the same thing...any answer yet?


114 posted on 06/19/2006 5:31:47 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Mr. Silverback

"If he'd had a smaller ego there might be a state named Arnold on the West Coast."

And it would do wonders for the place.


115 posted on 06/19/2006 5:36:35 PM PDT by labard1
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To: WhiteGuy
Or is it simply hatred of out-of-control government?

Wow, the administration is fighting terrorists. That's sooooo out of control! </hippie>

Roberts is a seditionist, and this column should be exhibit A at his trial.

116 posted on 07/25/2006 6:02:33 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Howard Dean thinks I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.)
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To: WhiteGuy
Or is it simply hatred of out-of-control government?

Wow, the administration is fighting terrorists. That's sooooo out of control! </hippie>

Roberts is a seditionist, and this column should be exhibit A at his trial.

117 posted on 07/25/2006 6:02:58 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Howard Dean thinks I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.)
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To: Mr. Silverback

Roberts is a seditionist, and this column should be exhibit A at his trial.


says you.............ping me when the charges are filed.


118 posted on 07/25/2006 6:34:31 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (It's about the People Who Count the Votes................. - Wally O'Dell)
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To: WhiteGuy
says you.............ping me when the charges are filed.

If a writer at the NYT had said, in 1944, that every rape by a GI in Europe was FDR's direct fault...that the war was caused by FDR...that FDR and the Congress were every bit as bad as Hitler was said to be and was an enemy of the American people...and that the Axis never hurt anybody and we had no business fighting them, would that be sedition? What would have happened to that gent? I don't see how it's any different from PCR's points here.

PCR says the Commnder-in-Chief is a terrorist, and that we have become a terror sponsoring state. Do you agree or disagree with that?

119 posted on 07/25/2006 7:45:20 PM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Howard Dean thinks I shot a man in Reno just to watch him die.)
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To: Mr. Silverback
If a writer at the NYT had said, in 1944, that every rape by a GI in Europe was FDR's direct fault...that the war was caused by FDR...that FDR and the Congress were every bit as bad as Hitler was said to be and was an enemy of the American people...and that the Axis never hurt anybody and we had no business fighting them, would that be sedition? What would have happened to that gent? I don't see how it's any different from PCR's points here.

If your premise is correct - Mr. Roberts would be in custody today - or possibly in the near future. As I asked, please ping me when the charges are filed.

PCR says the Commnder-in-Chief is a terrorist, and that we have become a terror sponsoring state. Do you agree or disagree with that?

I think to refer to bush as a terrorist is quite a stretch, and I think everyone is welcome to their opinion. let's consider each of the writer's assertions individually and determine their accuracy.

120 posted on 07/25/2006 8:06:05 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (It's about the People Who Count the Votes................. - Wally O'Dell)
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