How Coherent Is the Human Evolution Story?

Haven't participated in a good heated argument lately... ;-)

1 posted on 06/01/2006 1:12:22 PM PDT by Sopater

Hmmm.

God made His creatures to reproduce "after their own kind," and it appears from the fossils that they have done just that. ... This is presented to school children as no less certain than Washington's crossing of the Delaware.

There.

2 posted on 06/01/2006 1:21:07 PM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)

I've been told all the bones before homo erectus ever found will fit easily into one phone booth. Hard to conclusively base millions of years of evolution on so little evidence.

3 posted on 06/01/2006 1:21:11 PM PDT by pikachu (I do not see the glass as half full or half empty but as the Jack Daniels is gone and the ice melted)

Hmmmm - ok
Why can't they do a DNA sample of these old guys/gals (teeth are a great source - sealed) and compare it with modern man ... see what traits are there ... then too, why has some species "evolved" and some not? Is there a master plan evolutionist 'god' that determines what will advance and what won't .... and finally, if evolution is an ongoing thing, what are we going to evolve into - pink twitted newts?????

4 posted on 06/01/2006 1:23:03 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("The Americans on Flight 93 did more to counter terrorism than the Democrats have done in 4 years")

You mean that Darwin might have been wrong??

What a surprise!

5 posted on 06/01/2006 1:23:56 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)

"Haven't participated in a good heated argument lately... ;-)"

Yeah, these evolution threads. Genesis 1 is big-bang and evolution wrapped into one but since there are small inconsistencies with what we know today in the order of events the fanatics can't accept it - to do so would call into question every other detail of the bible as interpretable and "wrong" or misplaced.

6 posted on 06/01/2006 1:24:41 PM PDT by Shermy (Ronald Reagan was man enough to call an Amnesty an Amnesty.)

How Coherent Is the Human Evolution Story?
Institute for Creation Research

If you want to know about evolution, why would you believe a word the Institute for Creation Research has to say?

With regard to evolution, is it not their goal to deny, obfuscate, and mislead?

7 posted on 06/01/2006 1:25:11 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Stupidity is the only universal capital crime; the sentence is death--Heinlein)

The theory of evolution is entirely consistent with belief in a Creator.

8 posted on 06/01/2006 1:27:34 PM PDT by Buck W. (If you push something hard enough, it will fall over.)

I would no more pay attention to scientific advise from the Institute for Creation Research than I would pay attention to economics advise from the Socialist Workers' Party.

9 posted on 06/01/2006 1:28:35 PM PDT by steve-b (hardcore 'social' conservatives are to the Rs what the hardcore moonbat eco-nuts are to to the Ds)

"With regard to evolution, is it not their goal to deny, obfuscate, and mislead?"

Make money too. Books, lecture fees. Enough buyers, pays the bills, maybe more.

10 posted on 06/01/2006 1:28:57 PM PDT by Shermy (Ronald Reagan was man enough to call an Amnesty an Amnesty.)

"what are we going to evolve into - pink twitted newts?????"

Check DU.

11 posted on 06/01/2006 1:29:47 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)

The Institute for Creation Research?

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12 posted on 06/01/2006 1:30:01 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)

I saw a bumper sticker that pretty much sums it up for me ... but not in the way the owner wanted or intended.

It said ... "Fine, I evolved, you didn't"

I laughed and agreed. Told my little girl that the bumper sticker proved my point. There are a class of people that indeed evolve from ameba's, pagans/atheist. My descendants were created whole, by the one true GOD.

13 posted on 06/01/2006 1:32:20 PM PDT by Russ_in_NC

I have a point of view that isn't very popular with either creationists or evolutionists.

But the bottom line is this: I don't believe evolution explains US, modern humans, and our sudden emergence with so many attributes not seen before.

And, I believe in God.

14 posted on 06/01/2006 1:36:42 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)

To: DoctorMichael

The Institute for Creation Research?

Yup. The same people who state the Earth can't be more than a few thousand years old and think it should be taught in science classes.

15 posted on 06/01/2006 1:37:21 PM PDT by gdani

My descendants were created whole, by the one true GOD.

That's an interesting reaction. Similar to the debate in the church years ago when it was still believed that the sun rotated around the earth. It had a lot to do with man's sense of self-importance. We WERE the center of the universe. It was quite a climb down to have to admit we were just a speck in a random position in the universe.

16 posted on 06/01/2006 1:40:27 PM PDT by Dracian

Dinosaurs = Jesus Horses.

17 posted on 06/01/2006 1:45:19 PM PDT by Altair333 (Red Rover, Red Rover, Send Mexico Right Over)

A couple bones from here a couple bones from there and a bunch of speculation from everywhere makes for a very weak theory.

18 posted on 06/01/2006 1:46:35 PM PDT by Echo Talon

I'm not quite sure of his first argument. He seems to be saying that species categorization by morphology is flawed because they only differ by shape.

That's like saying the rainbow is all the same color because it only varies by wavelength.

Of course color categorization is going to have arbitrary boundries -- wavelengths vary contiuously. But we know red is sufficiently different from blue to name them. Same ways with fossil bones.

His second argument that there are examples of 6000 year old H. erectus is a factual claim for which he provides no evidence.

19 posted on 06/01/2006 1:47:01 PM PDT by Dracian

The theory of evolution is entirely consistent with belief in a Creator.

hmmmm... I wonder how you interpret the Bible.

20 posted on 06/01/2006 1:48:19 PM PDT by Echo Talon

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