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1 posted on 06/01/2006 1:02:49 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The movie "Day Before Tomorrow"--environmentalists and climatologists dream movie.


2 posted on 06/01/2006 1:04:05 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Wasn't Lech Walesa a North Pole?


3 posted on 06/01/2006 1:04:57 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I didn't know they had gas guzzling SUVs 55 million years ago.


4 posted on 06/01/2006 1:08:15 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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5 posted on 06/01/2006 1:10:35 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The tropics temperature increased by only about 5 degrees Celsius while the North Pole increased by 43 degrees.

Clearly there is something wrong with the analysis. When things don't add up, then there is an error.

Perhaps the area sampled was farther South than they thought at the time and was also a shallow freshwater sea rather than ocean. Much of central North America was a shallow sea at the time. Perhaps this now Arctic ocean and Arctic plate location was tied into it at the time. That might explain it better.


6 posted on 06/01/2006 1:13:36 PM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
From the article: "it is possible that other forces in addition to higher-than-normal greenhouse gas concentrations were involved, otherwise we can't explain how the tropics maintained livable conditions."

Oh, so there must have been something else involved.

From the article: "People have conjectured that polar stratospheric clouds or hurricane-induced ocean heat transport might have played crucial roles in amplifying polar heating, but much work needs to be done to prove this. Mechanisms that feed back onto global warming are poorly understood and not well represented into our current generation of models. This should be of great concern and will continue to be debated and explored in future research."

Again, NOT greenhouse gas, and they don't really know enough about these processes at all.

From the article: "Even people who describe themselves as global warming skeptics can accept the fact that massive changes happened in the past because research shows that climate change is natural. But the real point is that not only is climate change natural, but it's also easy to set in motion. All it takes is an increase in the concentration of greenhouse gases."

Compare that last sentence, all it takes is an increase in greenhouse gas - but he said right before that, greenhouse gases alone do NOT explain it. And he ends by saying we can all admit these things happened in the past and climate change is NATURAL.

7 posted on 06/01/2006 1:21:06 PM PDT by Williams
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To: DaveLoneRanger

ping


8 posted on 06/01/2006 1:24:21 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Read the report.

The location drilled, the Lomonosov Ridge was likely attached to the Eurasian plate 56 million years ago, much of which was also shallow sea at the time, somewhat South of where it is now but still close to the arctic circle.


9 posted on 06/01/2006 1:30:05 PM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
They also came to the conclusion there are massive oil deposits beneath the Arctic ocean but, preferred to leave that info out.
10 posted on 06/01/2006 1:30:41 PM PDT by wolfcreek
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12 posted on 06/01/2006 1:35:47 PM PDT by D-Chivas
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

drill in the ground and know what was happening 50 million years ago?

can Huber tell me what I ate for lunch if I fart in his general direction?


13 posted on 06/01/2006 1:37:16 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (Illegal immigrants are just undocumented friends you haven't met yet!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

An inconvenient report.


14 posted on 06/01/2006 1:37:24 PM PDT by BenLurkin
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To: Dominic Harr

You might find this interesting.


15 posted on 06/01/2006 1:53:20 PM PDT by cogitator
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

ever heard of the HAB theory?

it says that the poles get too heavy from ice and then because of the earths wobble in it's rotation, inertia causes the poles to goto the equator and two new poles are born every 5000 - 7500 years.

http://www.habtheory.com/1/hab1.php


24 posted on 06/01/2006 4:01:13 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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