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And when they find out that these people were either killed by crossfire and/or by the "bad guys" before they "bugged out"; I fully expect the MSM to post these Marines' exoneration on their front pages and at the top of their news hour.

Semper Fi, Kelly

1 posted on 06/01/2006 11:46:51 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

Don't hold your breath. What annoys me is the ethics training and the fact that GWB is "troubled". Why not take a strong stand for "innocent until proven guilty"???


2 posted on 06/01/2006 11:50:27 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: SandRat

ping


3 posted on 06/01/2006 11:51:26 AM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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The problem with this, true or not, is that the result may be to create the slightest hesitation in our guys with a deadly result. And all of it gets laid directly at Murtha's and the MSM's feet.


4 posted on 06/01/2006 11:51:40 AM PDT by ladtx ("It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it." -- -- General Douglas MacArthur)
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To: kellynla
He added, however, that "unfortunately, there are a few individuals who sometimes choose the wrong path."

Umm, he isn't telegraphing this punch...he's plain telling you it is coming.

5 posted on 06/01/2006 11:53:10 AM PDT by ContemptofCourt
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Yes. Let's have the soldiers have a New AGe encounter group session and include the islamofascists too. Think how much they could grow.


6 posted on 06/01/2006 11:53:38 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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HADITHA. A rush to Judgment.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/05/31/haditha/index.html

Video on lower right hand side of the screen. Called "Haditha Uncovered. Go watch it.

Perhaps someone can explain to me the logical and factual flaws in the "Iraqi Civilian Right Groups" "story. How can these facts be logically reconciled with what the Iraqis, and some supposed Freepers, are accusing the Marines of doing?

To Quote CNN:

"According to published reports, a number of Marines from the storied 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines, 1st Marine Division are accused killing more than 20 Iraqi civilians in retaliation for the death of one of their comrades by a roadside bomb in November, 2005."

Okie, 20 Dead Civilians. Which we are told were all shot thus supposedly proving "the Marines falsified the original report". So what could just be an honest mistake between a Marine's assumption on the spot of cause of death in his After Action Report (We didn't fire up the building, they were dead, must of been the bomb shrapnel) with a medical examiners report filed after a autopsies is NOW claimed by the accusers as"proof" that the "Marines Lied".

Ok so the accusation is they were all shot to death at short range in a building that had not been penetrated by any rounds from outside. No bullet holes in the building, must mean it was not Collateral Damage but a deliberate act is the accusers claims. In other words the accusers claim the Marines shot to death the Iraqis inside the building as a deliberate act not an accident of war. In fact, Some are running around claiming a shrapnel wound is so obviously different that a Combat Infantry Marine would know the difference between the two. Leave aside the obviously question why would Infantry Marine would be examining the wounds of dead Civilians, lets assume, that is correct.

Ok, then how come the "survivors" as interviewed for CNN by the "Iraqi Civil Rights group" are making such obviously absurd claims on the video?

"They burned the room with my father in it then threw a bomb"? Neat trick that. How they "Burn the room"? We don't use flame throwers. "Threw a bomb" but the accusers are telling us it all gun shot wounds. "a Bomb" inflict shrapnel wounds.

Notice also the mannerism of the "children survivors". Having come thru what would of been the most terrifying event of their lives and being forced to talk about it again, yet the kids show no hesitation or emotion. Just a dull recital of supposed "Facts" as if they were reciting a story as an memorization assignment in School. Very strange that. Absolutely no real emotion, just a breathless recital of "Facts" Then when done speaking look over to the person standing to the right of the camera (You can see his shadow behind the kids). Sure looks like kids looking at a teacher to see how they did in reciting their "lesson"

Then there is the part where the "Iraqi Civil Rights Group" filming the kids told the Iraqi boy to "show his wounds". It must not of occurred to the "Iraqi Civil Rights Group" making the video to consider the Iraqi boy's supposed "wound". Apparently no one bothered to think about where he was "shot". The supposed "wound" supposedly inflicted by US Marines at point blank range, (as claimed by the "Iraqi Civil Rights Group)" is directly over his spine. Yet when told he got up and turned around for the camera to "Show his wounds"?

If he HAD been shot there, he would be crippled for life, his spine severed just below the neck. So all this is being based on the claims of an "Iraqi Civil Rights Group" which are demonstrated to be lying. Since they lied about this, what ELSE might they have lied about? So maybe some one can explain these inconsistencies in the "witnesses" testimony? Some "Americans", especially in the Junk Media, maybe want to rethink their rush to judgment on these Marines


7 posted on 06/01/2006 11:53:46 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (I would rather be an Iraqi in a Hidatha guarded by Marines, then a subject of Al-Qeda anywhere.)
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"Grog demand US troops get Ethics training"
13 posted on 06/01/2006 12:23:50 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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I'm still waiting for the day when headlines announce that all MSM reporters and editors are submitting to voluntary "ethics training" to learn to write honest, objective reporting and commentary.......


15 posted on 06/01/2006 12:54:05 PM PDT by Enchante (General Hayden: I've Never Taken a Domestic Flight That Landed in Waziristan!)
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