Posted on 05/31/2006 9:16:43 PM PDT by neverdem
I'm sorry, but the word of muslims will never, ever override what our U.S. Marines say. Muslims are trained from infancy to hate Jews, Americans, the West. They are taught that lying is a virtue if that lie is in defense of islam. How can any honest, serious minded person accept the word of these backwards, barbaric, America-hating neanderthals?
The article talks at length about the rules of war, how these rules were designed to 'civilize' warfare and restrict the soldier from becoming overzealous in combat. But when the Geneva Convention and the Hague rules were formed, there was no such enemy as these bloodthirsty devils of islam. These men are cold-blooded murderers and butchers of the human body. They spit on the gift of life that God gave them each time they strap on a suicide vest and mass murder civilians, policemen and Coalition troops who freed them from Saddam. They are animated not by a human soul, but by the Satanic spirit that has perfectly possessed them. They live to hate, they love to hate, they are hate.
Recently one such butcher was captured in Iraq, and he admitted to cutting off the heads of more than a hundred people. In any other context than a muslim carrying out his islamic duties, this man would be considered to be the cruelest serial killer that ever lived. There would be books and movies written about his unspeakable deeds. But he is a muslim, hence nobody bats an eye at the story and it is forgotten.
This is what we fight against, soul-less monsters rather than men. I don't blame our soldiers and Marines for wanting revenge against such monsters, who murder and then hide amongst the women and children like the cowardly pigs they are. Either we open up our rules of engagement and send in more troops, and get tougher with these animals or we lose the war in the long run, period. They will never be appeased, they have to be crushed.
Even if the video from the unarmed drone provides undeniable proof that the Marines did not commit any war crimes, I don't think it will be accepted by those intent on branding the entire U.S. Military as barbarians. Those who hate the Military have a history of ignoring facts.
Thanks for the URL and directions.
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Cori Dauber
"Under the stress of war, unchecked thumos can push a decent man over the threshold. That’s a fact. But to use Haditha to discredit the efforts of hundreds of thousands of American and Coalition servicemen in Iraq, is as wrong as it was to use My Lai to discredit our sacrifices in Vietnam."
this reinforces the case for the removal from office of Murtha for his reckless comments
save for later
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the word of muslims will never, ever override what our U.S. Marines say
Do you mind if I use it?
By all means, please feel free to use it.
Thank you!!
"Danger is part of the friction of war. Without an accurate conception of danger we cannot understand war." - Karl von Clauswitz, On War, 1832.
good site, thanks...
And nations?
To make the point, it was okay to drop A-bombs on two cities in addition to obliterating Dresden as long as thumos was in check. And it successfully ended the war and reduced casualties.
But what if thumos was not in check and we made an instant battlefield decision while in a state of anger and frenzy which shortened the war and reduced casualties by dropping A-bombs on two cities in addition to obliterating Dresden?
Would we have still been a 'righteous' victor? Same result. The only difference being that in the case of the former, the decision was in long-making, dispassionate, tactical, and practical.
Make the call.
If you say no difference, that we were justified and righteous either way, then consider how you would judge something similar in nature, but on a much smaller scale, like Haditha (if, what they are saying happened is really the way it went down).
Or must we take the time to make plans and to act objectively, without passion, dropping bombs from the skies to insure it was not personal and close-up, making sure our thumos was in check in order for the act to be righteous?
Just thinking out loud here.
The fact is, when parents who support our enemies do not move their children ou of war zones, the blood, IMHO, is as much on their head as anyone else's...and if they are supporting our enemies, most of it is in on their heads.
We should take place like Haditha, one or two of them...or more if need be...and give the citizens who so desire 72 hours to get out...through very thorough checkpoints...and then level the places completely.
After two or three examples, you would see the support for thew terrorists even in those places dry up markedly. We must pacify the enemy and the civilian population that is desposed to support them. No embedded reporters, no press zones...just get it done and do it with extreme prehjudice in those areas where the enemy considers it has enclaves.
I agree. In that the WOT is not specifically nation against nation, the tacticians would be wise to start performing micro-surgery wherever necessary -- each of our troops a scalpel. Whatever works should be S.O.P.
I think giving warning and following through with aerial bombardment, bulldozers and disposal teams will cause the bahstids to sue for peace in short order. It's not our war, it's theirs. We don't want it, so let's fight it and end it on our terms, not theirs.
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