Posted on 05/31/2006 9:16:43 PM PDT by neverdem
Unnamed, unknown, unsubstantiated "Govt sources or Pentagon Officials" just like the ones who promised the Leftist "25 Indictment on Fritzmus" or "The Army is bogged down and cut off in Iraq" or "Gitmo Guards flushed a Koran"
Leftist Anti American Activist groups. Like Amnesty International and Anwer.
A self styled "Iraqi Civil Rights" group operating out of Terrorirst stronghold.
A supposed child "survivor" who has told three different tales on how she survived.
Perhaps people better take a deep breath and wait to find out what REALLY happened. Sounds like there is an awful lot of noise but very little light
I liked what Rush said today......Paraphrasing, big tims......EVERYDAY, the terrorists blow up innocent people with IED's and other means......our Marines, it appears, in the heat of battle killed some innocents....which is not how we would like it to be, but sometimes how it is!
The lefty's would rather attack our Marines in this instance, but would do NOTHING to keep Saddam from killing hundreds of thousands of his own citizens!
Even if this turns out to be as objectively awful as rumored, I think that people are so jaded and detached that they will all but ignore the story.
People are too busy watching baseball, "American Idol", and "Desperate Housewives" to even care.
But is known so far .. it is nothing like My Lai and any one claiming it is .. is trying to rewrite history and use it to paint the entire military as bad and evil
They should be ashamed of themselves
Whatever happened on this day is being investigation and if there was wrong doing .. those involved will be dealt with
In the mean time .. a word of advice to the anti war liberals and Dem Leaders like Murtha
Don't you dare do to our military what you did to the vets from Vietnam
Haditha is one of the locales where Zarqawi was thought to be getting aid and comfort...
ping
Thanks Cannoneer No. 4.I don't believe it and Murtha is our Kerry.
What gave that impression?? The IEDs or the small arms fire afterwards???
These "insurgents"(totaly inaccurate nomenclature) gotta stay somewhere once they get in town from Iran/Syria. The people sheltering these nonuniformed guerrillas, are military support personel.
Innocent civis me arse!!!
Thanks for the ping!
And we will say, "that was one small group under bad leaders, and two incidents thirty years apart."
And they will say, "it could happen again at any moment because Haditha was when their true nature was revealed." (If we're lucky. If we aren't they'll just gin up more examples.)
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Video on lower right hand side of the screen. Called "Haditha Uncovered. Go watch it.
Perhaps someone can explain to me the logical and factual flaws in the "Iraqi Civilian Right Groups" "story. How can these facts be logically reconciled with what the Iraqis, and some supposed Freepers, are accusing the Marines of doing?
According to published reports, a number of Marines from the storied 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines, 1st Marine Division are accused killing more than 20 Iraqi civilians in retaliation for the death of one of their comrades by a roadside bomb in November, 2005.
Okie, 20 Dead Civilians. Which we are told were all shot thus supposedly proving "the Marines falsified the original report". So what could just be an honest mistake between an a Marine's assumption on the spot of cause of death in his After Action Report (We didn't fire up the building, they were dead, must of been the bomb shrapnel) with a medical examiners report filed after a autopsies is NOW claimed by the accusers as"proof" that the "Marines Lied".
Ok so the accusation is they were all shot to death at short range in a building that had not been penetrated by any rounds from outside. No bullet holes in the building, must mean it was not Collateral Damage but a deliberate act. In other words the accusers claim the Marines shot to death the Iraqis inside the building as a deliberate act not an accident of war. In fact, Some are running around claiming a shrapnel wound is so obviously different that a Combat Infantry Marine would know the difference between the two. Leave aside the obviously question why would Infantry Marine would be examining the wounds of dead Civilians, lets assume, that is correct. Ok, then how come your "Witnesses" as interviewed for CNN by the "Iraqi Civil Rights group" are making such obviously absurd claims on the video? "They burned the room with my father in it then threw a bomb"? Neat trick that. How they "Burn the room"? We don't use flame throwers. "Threw a bomb" but you are telling us it all gun shot wounds. "a Bomb" inflict shrapnel wounds.
Notice also the mannerism of the "children survivors". Having come thru what would of been the most terrifying event of their lives and being forced to talk about it again, yet the kids show no hesitation or emotion. Just a dull recital of supposed "Facts" as if they were reciting a story as an memorization assignment in School. Very strange that. Absolutely no real emotion, just a breathless recital of "Facts" Then when done speaking look over to the person standing to the right of the camera (You can see his shadow behind the kids). Sure looks like kids looking at a teacher to see how they did in reciting their "lesson"
Then there is the part where the "Iraqi Civil Rights Group" filming the kids told the Iraqi boy to "show his wounds". It must not of occurred to the "Iraqi Civil Rights Group" making the video to consider the Iraqi boy's supposed "wound". Apparently no one bothered to think about where he was "shot". The supposed "wound" supposedly inflicted by US Marines at point blank range, (as claimed by the "Iraqi Civil Rights Group)" is directly over his spine. Yet when told he got up and turned around for the camera to "Show his wounds"?
If he HAD been shot there, he would be crippled for life, his spine severed just below the neck. So all this is being based on the claims of an "Iraqi Civil Rights Group" which are demonstrated to be lying. Since they lied about this, what ELSE might they have lied about? So maybe some one can explain these inconsistencies in the "witnesses" testimony? Some "American" especially in the Junk Media, maybe want to rethink their rush to judgement on these Marines.
Video on lower right hand side of the screen. Called "Haditha Uncovered. Go watch it.
Perhaps someone can explain to me the logical and factual flaws in the "Iraqi Civilian Right Groups" "story. How can these facts be logically reconciled with what the Iraqis, and some supposed Freepers, are accusing the Marines of doing?
According to published reports, a number of Marines from the storied 3rd Battalion, 1st Marines, 1st Marine Division are accused killing more than 20 Iraqi civilians in retaliation for the death of one of their comrades by a roadside bomb in November, 2005.
Okie, 20 Dead Civilians. Which we are told were all shot thus supposedly proving "the Marines falsified the original report". So what could just be an honest mistake between an a Marine's assumption on the spot of cause of death in his After Action Report (We didn't fire up the building, they were dead, must of been the bomb shrapnel) with a medical examiners report filed after a autopsies is NOW claimed by the accusers as"proof" that the "Marines Lied".
Ok so the accusation is they were all shot to death at short range in a building that had not been penetrated by any rounds from outside. No bullet holes in the building, must mean it was not Collateral Damage but a deliberate act. In other words the accusers claim the Marines shot to death the Iraqis inside the building as a deliberate act not an accident of war. In fact, Some are running around claiming a shrapnel wound is so obviously different that a Combat Infantry Marine would know the difference between the two. Leave aside the obviously question why would Infantry Marine would be examining the wounds of dead Civilians, lets assume, that is correct. Ok, then how come your "Witnesses" as interviewed for CNN by the "Iraqi Civil Rights group" are making such obviously absurd claims on the video? "They burned the room with my father in it then threw a bomb"? Neat trick that. How they "Burn the room"? We don't use flame throwers. "Threw a bomb" but you are telling us it all gun shot wounds. "a Bomb" inflict shrapnel wounds.
Notice also the mannerism of the "children survivors". Having come thru what would of been the most terrifying event of their lives and being forced to talk about it again, yet the kids show no hesitation or emotion. Just a dull recital of supposed "Facts" as if they were reciting a story as an memorization assignment in School. Very strange that. Absolutely no real emotion, just a breathless recital of "Facts" Then when done speaking look over to the person standing to the right of the camera (You can see his shadow behind the kids). Sure looks like kids looking at a teacher to see how they did in reciting their "lesson"
Then there is the part where the "Iraqi Civil Rights Group" filming the kids told the Iraqi boy to "show his wounds". It must not of occurred to the "Iraqi Civil Rights Group" making the video to consider the Iraqi boy's supposed "wound". Apparently no one bothered to think about where he was "shot". The supposed "wound" supposedly inflicted by US Marines at point blank range, (as claimed by the "Iraqi Civil Rights Group)" is directly over his spine. Yet when told he got up and turned around for the camera to "Show his wounds"?
If he HAD been shot there, he would be crippled for life, his spine severed just below the neck. So all this is being based on the claims of an "Iraqi Civil Rights Group" which are demonstrated to be lying. Since they lied about this, what ELSE might they have lied about? So maybe some one can explain these inconsistencies in the "witnesses" testimony? Some "American" especially in the Junk Media, maybe want to rethink their rush to judgment on these Marines.
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