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To: AzaleaCity5691

I have insurance, I have a conceal carry permit for my pistol, my automobiles comply fully with state law, and I don't drive around my car with drugs and other contraband. I got stopped at one roadblock, and I informed the officer I had a pistol in my car, and I showed him my permit, along with the other pertinent information, and then I was sent on my way.

The changing demographics of this city necessitate that measures like this occur or else we run the real danger of becoming the next Birmingham, a crime-ridden s***hole, in which a lawyer was kidnapped yesterday in a fairly brazen fashion. It is not like they are stopping pedestrians, and they are not going into people's homes. If you are not on a private road you are on a public road, you have no ownership of a public road. Incidentally, a week after the first roadblock, the PR did a poll and found that 81% of area residents support the roadblocks, the highest level of support for anything recently polled.

In order to get to my home in this nice well-kept area on the Bay, I have to drive through a once nice area that has since turned into a ghetto, I have no way around it. Whenever I buy groceries, I take a pistol with me. Roadblocks have made me feel safer, and they don't violate anyone's rights because you don't have a right to drive. The ability to drive is a privelege granted to you by the state, it's not your constitutional right, and I will say this, every drug dealer, every gang banger, every thug they take off the streets so that the law abiding citizens don't have to sleep with shotguns by their beds, I'm all for it.


13 posted on 05/31/2006 1:08:49 PM PDT by AzaleaCity5691 (The enemy used to lie in the heart of Gadsden, now Riley outpolls him by 50 points)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
Incidentally, a week after the first roadblock, the PR did a poll and found that 81% of area residents support the roadblocks, the highest level of support for anything recently polled.

Oh, well that makes it alright then.

and they don't violate anyone's rights because you don't have a right to drive. The ability to drive is a privelege granted to you by the state, it's not your constitutional right

Pure BS and already debunked thoroughly on this thread.

18 posted on 05/31/2006 1:11:49 PM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: AzaleaCity5691
" What you should get from those stories is that this Time guy is a partisan hack"

All hail the state.

22 posted on 05/31/2006 1:12:44 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: AzaleaCity5691

"its for the children" huh?
how about instead of sitting around, hoping to nab a couple badguys and generate a buttload if income from seatbelt tickets, those cops went out and caught the CRIMINALS that were causing the problems.
besides, most criminals will know 15 minutes after a roadblock is set up, and find alternative routes.


34 posted on 05/31/2006 1:21:05 PM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: AzaleaCity5691
you don't have a right to drive. The ability to drive is a privelege granted to you by the state, it's not your constitutional right

And you believe that because the State told you so?

Amendment IX

46 posted on 05/31/2006 1:41:56 PM PDT by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk. Those who talk don't know.)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
Oh, please, that old argument about driving being a privilidge and not a right is not true. Driving is one of the unenumerated rights of the constitution. They didn't have cars then but they sure as hell had horses and carriages. Do you think for a minute that the founding fathers would have put up with someone tellling them they didn't have right to ride a horse or drive down the road in a carriage and that this "privilidge" could be taken away from them?

The govenment uses this idiotic argument to keep us in line. We have the RIGHT to travel all over this country, that means we have the right to drive.

If you don't believe me show me where in the constitution it specifically forbids driving as a right?

As I said, it is one of the many unenumerated rights, reason tells us this and if you buy into the privilidge argument then I pity you.

52 posted on 05/31/2006 1:50:55 PM PDT by calex59 (No country can survive multiculturalism. Dual cultures don't mix, history has taught us that!)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
The ability to drive is a privelege granted to you by the state

This kind of thinking is exactly why some of the Founding Fathers thought a "Bill of Rights" was a BAD idea: people would come to think that just because a right wasn't listed, it didn't exist. Do you think the 8 rights listed are the only natural rights you have? Do you not think the Founding Fathers thought the right to travel by one's own vehicle was so obvious and fundamental they didn't even conceive of adding it as an explicit right?

You'd be surprised at how quickly you can run afoul of bureaucratic regulations, how severely you can be treated for doing so, and how a cop can just toss you in jail for a judge to sort things out because there is no way the cop can be expected to know the law thoroughly. A surprising number of regulations are designed to not just punish wrongdoing, but to punish the opportunity for wrongdoing!

May your chains rest lightly upon you.

61 posted on 05/31/2006 1:59:06 PM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: AzaleaCity5691

Your easy acceptance of this slippery slope is horrifying!

May your chains rest lightly upon you.......


68 posted on 05/31/2006 2:08:46 PM PDT by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
The changing demographics of this city necessitate that measures like this occur

What do you mean, changing demographics...the Jew thing, like before?

69 posted on 05/31/2006 2:10:01 PM PDT by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
The ability to drive is a privelege granted to you by the state, it's not your constitutional right,

Amendment 9 (to the united states constituiton in case youve never read it or heard about any of the amendments)

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

139 posted on 05/31/2006 10:15:29 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

"81% of area residents support the roadblocks, the highest level of support for anything recently polled. "

80% of the people supported Hitler and the Nazi party in the early days of WW2 as well.

The rest were eventually.... re-educated. Those that survived anyway.


143 posted on 06/01/2006 12:46:17 AM PDT by Leatherneck_MT (In a world where Carpenters come back from the dead, ALL things are possible.)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

If the rest of the population was as like mined as yourself, there would be no need for road blocks,in Scotland they have just passed a law that allows the police to stop and search anyone they THINK maybe carrying a concealed weapon, this is because of the over 600 murders in Scotland last year more than half were committed with a knife, to now OWN I repeat, OWN, a knife that is not deemed a kitchen knife can get you up to 5 years in jail.


158 posted on 06/01/2006 1:25:02 AM PDT by jerryem (you don't beat on a bridge spike with a tack hammer)
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To: AzaleaCity5691

If the rest of the population was as like mined as yourself, there would be no need for road blocks,in Scotland they have just passed a law that allows the police to stop and search anyone they THINK maybe carrying a concealed weapon, this is because of the over 600 murders in Scotland last year more than half were committed with a knife, to now OWN I repeat, OWN, a knife that is not deemed a kitchen knife can get you up to 5 years in jail.


159 posted on 06/01/2006 1:25:09 AM PDT by jerryem (you don't beat on a bridge spike with a tack hammer)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
I substantially agree with you, Azalea (except about driving not being a right -- Tenth Amendment and all that).

A lot of the whining cowboy libertarians are carping about tickets for no driver's license (lost it for DWI) and no insurance being the major result in your article. I consider getting these people off the road a very important law enforcement function that perfectly well justifies the method used if they found nothing else.

I would like to see surveillance cameras at every urban intersection in the country! I feel no need for privacy on the public roads. I want safety from traffic scofflaws and punks on the streets doing more serious crimes.

That ought to draw some fire away from you!

162 posted on 06/01/2006 1:57:22 AM PDT by LK44-40
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To: AzaleaCity5691

LOL!!! You're an incrementalist's wet-dream.


171 posted on 06/01/2006 5:37:07 AM PDT by LIConFem (It is by will alone I set my mind in motion...)
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To: AzaleaCity5691
because you don't have a right to drive.

HorseHillery, comrade.

172 posted on 06/01/2006 5:39:48 AM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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