again you say unlikely. Maybe where you are hitting a deer is unlikely but that is not the case here.
I am not nor have I ever been a government employee.
Fine Bubba, you win seat belts have no value, they are a hoax, they are nothing more than a tool put in cars to amplify the governments pocket book.
FFS bubba how about a legit debate point from you describing to me why awearing a seatbelt is a bad thing to do. Show me where wrong has occured becasue they were worn.
Indeed define your own position better than 5 to 17.
Seat belts do help and that is a fact you cannot ignore and remain honest. Debating the enforcment of them is fair but all i see form you is opposition without solution. I see you present a differing position on ages between 5 to 17 but that is as in depth as you go. That to me makes it appear that you are afraid to say that you personally think it is a bogus law and that is a good enough reason for you to ignore it.
Right, but it should be a choice and not a law enforced by armed agents of the government.
If I want to go outside in my underwear in below-zero weather, that's dangerous, but I don't need a law to keep me from doing it.
The point you seem to miss is that the government keeps intruding into our lives incrementally and in places they shouldn't. There are already too many laws on the books protecting me from myself.
Fine Bubba, you win seat belts have no value, they are a hoax, they are nothing more than a tool put in cars to amplify the governments pocket book.
Seat belts do help and that is a fact you cannot ignore and remain honest. Debating the enforcment of them is fair but all i see form you is opposition without solution. I see you present a differing position on ages between 5 to 17 but that is as in depth as you go. That to me makes it appear that you are afraid to say that you personally think it is a bogus law and that is a good enough reason for you to ignore it.
You might want to go check out these links for the other side of the story:
Freedom Forced to Buckle, Part 1
Freedom Forced to Buckle, Part 2
A small sample: "One of the starkest examples of our government's inexorable usurpation of personal liberties in the name of the "greater good" has been the near-universal adoption of mandatory seat belt laws in the 50 states and the District of Columbia over the last two decades. Only one U.S. state, New Hampshire, whose fitting motto is "Live Free or Die," continues to put the individual's freedom and accountability above overreaching state power and federal fiscal coercion (more on this in a minute).
And not surprisingly to anyone who hasn't been brainwashed by the nannyish government into believing they're in mortal danger if they don't buckle up, the Granite State is perennially among the three or four safest states from a fatalities-per-vehicle and fatalities-per-mile standpoint -- despite having among the lowest seat belt use in the nation -- just 49.6% in 2003...
However, this being the age that it is, when principles are the redheaded stepchildren to pragmatism and when revenue is sovereign instead of rights, it takes numbers to make a point. One cannot simply argue the rightness or wrongness of anything these days -- at least not with any hope of being taken seriously. And so let's start off by considering the issue in purely numerical terms:
Do seat belts really save as many lives as everyone says? Do they save ANY?"
Go check out the links for the rest of the story.