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townhall ^ | 5/24/06 | Walter WIlliams

[Old Professer]

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[elkfersupper]

I would like to ask if a child should be buckled in.

I never was buckled in as a child, because there were no seatbelts.

If I have to do one more thing, or refrain from doing one more thing "for the children", I'm going to start throttling the little toots.

[RobRoy]

>>Only an idiot would stop at a stop sign on a deserted highway.<<

Heh, heh. When visiting relatives in South Dakota, I tend to stop at the signs when there is any good cover around (for cops). My relatives just laugh. I have learned it just doesn't work that way. The stop signs are just there to determine who is at fault if there ever IS an accident.

[Atlas Sneezed]

How is a seat belt law different from a speeding law? They are both safety issues, they are both personal decisions and they both affect other peoples safety.

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Seatbelts have little or no effect on the safety of those other than the person deciding whether to wear one.

If you want any reasonable person to believe otherwise, you'll need something other than your made-up hypothesis that defies common sense.

[spunkets]

More big govm't nanny state BS.

[Old Professer]

From bagheera.com:

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Range: North America

[KoRn]

"Didn't see this posted already, but this past weekend saw lots of "law enforcement" cracking down on these beltless criminals who infest our highways. Between the stoplight cameras, speed traps and seatbelt enforcers, the police have crime all covered."

I agree totally. By and large, the police in this country have turned into a huge pathetic joke. They do nothing but harass law abiding citizens in traffic to boost local tax revenues, while REAL criminals are running loose, and invading the country without any real resistance.

Are you an illegal alien? Are you a child molester? If so, then you have no worries. But if you are on your way to or from work and have a cracked tail light on your car, or forgot to put on your seat belt, LOOK OUT! They are coming for YOU! All in the name of "public safety" of course.

[BlueStateDepression]

You retain the choice to wear it or not, if you chose not to then pay the fine as the rules stipulate.

YOU MADE THAT CHOICE when you agreed to the RULES OF THE ROAD when you got your driver license.

Care to dispute that point sir? I would love to see you try!

[Old Professer]

You're supposed to keep the greasy side down.

[Atlas Sneezed]

The stop signs are just there to determine who is at fault if there ever IS an accident.

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Bingo!

We could have ZERO traffic infraction enforcment*, and let the insurance companies determine liability after the fact based on speed, etc.

*except for verifying that all vehicles display proof of current insurance.

[JoeSixPack1]

Heh, heh. When visiting relatives in South Dakota, I tend to stop at the signs when there is any good cover around (for cops). My relatives just laugh.

Now I understand how ex-4 term Gov Janklow of South Dakota got only a lousy 100 days w/roomservice for blowing a stop sign at 90+ and killing a motorcyclist/father of 2, named Randy Scott 2 years ago.

The jury must have laughed too.

[Protagoras]

I do worship the altar of the RULE OF LAW, after all that is the fabric that makes this nation what it is and indeed what defines an American.

You couldn't be more wrong. Get your hat back out.

Real Americans oppose nannystate laws and other bad laws. That is what people are doing on this thread.

I am sorry you are anti rule of law.

Nice try, but a lie.

Posters like you drive people away from sites like this.

If you promise to leave I'll promise to keep posting those cute little pictures.

Please refrain from posting to me any further.

It's a open forum. Don't read or answer. It's one of your choices.

[BlueStateDepression]

implausible

adj 1: having a quality that provokes disbelief; "gave the teacher an implausible excuse" [ant: plausible] 2: highly imaginative but unlikely; "a farfetched excuse"; "an implausible explanation" [syn: farfetched]

Maybe you should rewo0rd that because the Deer example I afforded you is real and losing control of a car after initial collision is not far fetched in the least.

While you may simply disregard it, that in and of itself does make it what you claimed it to be.

Seat belts do help in many situations, that is a fact you should accept. But you are free to live in denial if you chose to about that point.

[elkfersupper]

good lord the nanny staters are hyperactive on this thread today

With most legislative bodies in recess, their houses of worship are locked and empty.

[Old Professer]

It was hardly deserted; the congressman was drunk; had the victim been in a train, the coffins would be rearranged.

[Old Professer]

You should do more with that depression than wear it as a badge.

[RobRoy]

I voted for Rossi. He won, yet our governor is Grequare (sp?). We have no rule of law in the state of Washington. I make all driving choices – ALL OF THEM – as I see fit, not based on what some unelected socialist official deems “legal”. The very word draws a chuckle from me.

It is a game – like Monopoly – and all about arbitrary rules that are not in place for the reasons advertised. You cannot always break them, but the cops are not everywhere.

I have a friend that uses the HOV lane with impunity. The tickets he gets are merely the toll to him.

There is a book titled, “What to do when it is too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bast***s”.

I have actually found one of those things to do.

[JoeSixPack1]

I can dispute that point by referring to the seat belt law campaign here in Florida that tricked voters into giving the law a chance because they were SPECIFICALLY told they would NEVER be stopped for not wearing a seat belt.

Care to dispute that?

[BlueStateDepression]

It should be a CHOICE to pay those premiums right? That is the point you have been making this whole thread right?

Are you seeking to force me to pay fines, fees, or anything else you wish to call that forced money transfer?

Assuming risk should be choice right? Isn't that what you have been saying?

It doesn't fit bubba.

[Protagoras]

Good luck. Maybe you could make one?