Click it or ticket

townhall ^ | 5/24/06 | Walter WIlliams

[McGavin999]

Yep, can't deport 11 million illegals, but they can catch you and give you a ticket if you're not wearing a seat belt.

[dfwgator]

Well if people want to elect yahoos that believe in that thinking then I guess there is nothing to stop them from doing that.

[BlueStateDepression]

Yet anothe rpost where not only do you callnames but indeed you go after my children.

You really need to grow up.

I do worship the altar of the RULE OF LAW, after all that is the fabric that makes this nation what it is and indeed what defines an American.

I am sorry you are anti rule of law.

I have no interest in talking with a person that only seeks to call names post after post. Posters like you drive people away from sites like this.

Please refrain from posting to me any further.

[Cobra64]

Gabz, you forgot the gag alert re the Nanny Staters. See my post 339.

[BlueStateDepression]

Tokra, the lie comes in when the insurance companies pocket the price savings rather than passing on the savings to premium payers.

[Old Professer]

You painted the picture, I'm just trying to fit it in a frame.

[JoeSixPack1]

Again, you are out there is lala land. Adding a feature to control your vehicle better than the government mandate or manufacturers profit point is .. get ready,,, pay attention,,,, this is big

A CHOICE!!!!

Amazing aint it??? You can add features to improve your personal safety. You can wear a helmet! You can wear bullet proof skivies.

[Atlas Sneezed]

>>How about doing away with mandatory speed limits and just say that your insurance won't cover your accident if you were going 110 mph?

Or (something like Germany) working it out with your insurance company that you are covered over 100mph if you have qualified equippment, and more rigourous skill testing.

>>Or how about doing away with mandatory drivers licenses and having the insurance company not pay if you drive without a license?

I prefer to have the state out of the licensing business, and let the insurance company decide what qualifies you to drive with their funds at risk. The only important government function would be to see that each car displays proof of currently paid up insurance, and that could be done by meter maids, not armed cops.

>>Mandatory licenses, speed limits AND seat belts are all there to protect us. Why ignore one and accept the other two?

Seat belts are different in that they protect only the wearer. The others you mention protect PUBLIC safety. Did you even read the article do learn of this clear distinction?

[subterfuge]

hope "uncommon sense" was meant as sarcasm because i have read "commom sense" as well as mill's "on liberty" as well as works by plato, aristotle and others...even marx..

I would think that someone as learned as yourself could at least be courteous enough to use punctuation and decent grammar. Maybe not.

[BlueStateDepression]

seems my assumption was correct on at least one point. You said so yourself right?

You learned ona washboard road. Not all people have.

I love how you will inject abortion into this.

As your position will be that of no abortion ever( assumption on my part there) I will say that you better stop with your angle that this is about persobnal choice because you will hit your own roadblock when these two things mix!


I do love however that you found a way to tie abortion to seat belts!

[Atlas Sneezed]

If you lose control of your vehicle, even if after the initial collision, you are more likely to hit more cars(containing other people) on the road.

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You need implausible scenarios like this to show an effect on public safety. But at least you are tacitly acknowledging the distinction in principle.

[Larry Lucido]

Dr. Williams nails it as usual. Back when I was on the beat, I felt I had more important things to do than worry about who was wearing seat belts. Hell, even aggressive drunk driving enforcement was more defensible than this crap.

[hosepipe]

[ I don't think the Miranda decision was entirely ridiculous. It's application is problematical. ]

Its absolutely ridiculous.. doing a little verbal dance before the arrest(that is sure to happen) is silly in the extreme.. to make the LEO appear as a drone.. Which is the purpose of it completely.. The purpose of it is not to aid the arrestee but to demoralize the LEO..

[Old Professer]

The only new law I would support is a limit on the sale of shovels to those unqualified in their proper use.

[BlueStateDepression]

Fair point made, one that should be said loudly over and over.

[Badray]

And school busses carry our children without being belted in and the school bus is less safe than today's automobiles.

Government and common sense are mutually exclusive.

[Protagoras]

and they both affect other peoples safety.

What BS

Socialism has nothing to do with either of these laws.

Correct, it's NANNYSTATISM. And modern liberalism.

Why is it OK to have speed limits, but not seat belt laws.

One violates others rights, one doesn't.

[RobRoy]

>>I wonder if this ad campaign is running nationwide. "Click It or Ticket" radio and TV ads have been running constantly here in Connecticut over the past several weeks...<<

Boy am I glad I dumped tv AND radio.

[Old Professer]

Group discount. :)

[Atlas Sneezed]

Impose insurance which is basically a fine before the infraction.....but you oppose a seat belt mandate?

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Insurance is a way to make sure that everyone can take responsibility for the harm they may cause TO OTHERS.

Not a fine, but an exchange of moderate money for risk.