Posted on 05/31/2006 9:27:03 AM PDT by petkus
Police called after she was told not to come; she wants documents
A Hopewell woman, a vocal critic of the Catholic Diocese of Richmond, was escorted by police from her parish church over the weekend after she refused to leave.
Lynn Allgeier, 58, who has attended St. James Catholic Church in Hopewell for eight years, has tried to get the diocese and her parish to make their financial records available for inspection by the laity. She also wants to read the personnel file of Saint James' pastor, the Rev. Frank L. Wiggins Jr.
"They wouldn't give me a line-by-line budget showing how money is spent. I want that, and I want to know the history of the priest," Allgeier said.
William Etherington, an attorney for the diocese, said Allgeier has been disruptive.
"She accuses people of things that are not true and demands she be able to interview the pastor. The pastor has said, 'I don't want you here.' And he has the right to say that."
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LOLOL. In big font AND bold, no less.
(There's only one "e" in judgment.)
Thank u. Mi speell chech is obviussssly nought wourlking.
Seems to work for us "stinkin Protestants."
(It's not nice to call people names, Mark.)
He's not the one who started it. The Feeneyite did.
Hey, I take a shower twice a month whether I need it or not, provided it rains.
(You spell "judgemnt" like that?!?) :O)
I'll have to remember that the next time some Jack Chick devotee starts throwing apocolyptic accusations around about the Catholic Church and/or Catholics in general, or Catholic FReepers in particular.
Thanks for the reminder.
In regards to, (You spell "judgemnt" like that?!?) :O)I would respectfully refer you to this post.
I agree with the "perhaps" thing, but other than that, it was kind of a weird post.
I will say one thing, I have learned that there are always two sides to a story and I withhold judgement until I hear both sides. And this may surprise you, but I am what you would call a protestant. :)
The recently retired Archbishop of Galveston Houston drove a midsized Ford 4 door sedan product. My car cost more than his.
There is a 35 year old Baptist minister who shops at Neiman Marcus and Saks for his suits.
Ah, but are you a stinkin Protestant ;)
Shoot, I forgot deodorant this morning.
Yes, I'm afraid I am a stinkin' protestant - today. Well, if you get close enough...
The authorities that be require a background check for anyone who interacts with "youth" at our church. Youth= anyone under 18. (This included a young man who had been in the choir for 4 years, an Eagle Scout, an Altar Server, an honors student, MAO, NHS and just turned 18.)
People left the choir and other ministries because they felt like they were being treated like common criminals.
You seem not to have a problem with it.
Honest people do object to being treated like criminals.
And you are acting like he is a criminal without knowing the whole story.
Have you asked your pastor to see the results of his background check? Have you interviewed people from where he has served before? Have you sought his personnel file? Have you fingerprinted him? Don't you feel you have the right to know?
That is the point.
Giving this woman the same financial statements that the Parish Council and the Auditors see should be sufficient.
This OBVIOUSLY wasn't the priest's or the Bishop's first encounter with this person.
>>Opus Dei will come around and kill your cat.<<
Dave, I can't tell you how much I admire you!!!!
"As an aside, are non-profit organizations, such as churches, compelled by law to open their financial records to the public?"
Public charities have to file annual financial statements with the IRS and either in a newspaper with wide circulation or on the internet for public scrutiny. Churches are exempt from this filing but the IRS will audit if there is a complaint of abuse of the assets or funds.
What kind of grief? None whatever. Good observation.
What kind of grief will I get into on this thread, if I point out that Christ and his message are not to be learned from a direct reading of the Bible, but by looking between the lines for a better, more credible message?
"She's thinking about attending a non Catholic Church"
Well, the Episcopal Church may have Queer Bishops but the Parish Books are open to the Parishioners who have to vote on the budget at the annual Business Meeting of the Parish.
Usually, the monthly church newsletter will have the line item budget numbers as to budget/actual expenditures.
Also since tyhe Vestry (Board) of the Church "calls" the Pastor, they have interviewed him/her and hopefully checked references.
I have a feeling this one will be a pain wherever she ends up however.
Osteen does not take a salary from Lakewood Church and lives off his book sales income.
None from me, because Jesus said that whosoever believes in Him would have everlasting life. He will judge who is and who isn't a true believer and not by denomination but by our spiritual walk with Him.
What kind of grief? That all depends on why you find a "direct reading" Biblical message to be less credible than a "between the lines reading" Biblical message.
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