White House: Haditha details to be public

AP/Yahoo ^ | 5/31/06 | Unknown

[Coop]

Say, I know another rather disgruntled ex-cop who pops around asking silly questions that he knows are false. You wouldn't be in the New York area, would ya Detective?

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

Dumb question, ex-cop.

There are no dumb questions. There are a lot of dumb answers, and that was one of them.

[Coop]

There are no dumb questions.

I beg to differ, Sheriff.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

You asserted, as fact, that her parents were actively aiding the terrorists.

Now, there's two ways for you to make that statement:

1. You actually have inside knowledge on this investigation because you have participated in it. In that case, you're just committing a major OPSEC and/or JAGMAN violation.

2. You don't have inside information, you're just making assumptions that may or may not be correct.

Which one?

[lugsoul]

I haven't seen the interview you reference, and I think your extrapolations from it about what everyone allegedly knew are a bit of a stretch. But let's assume that what you are saying is absolutely true - that this 10-year-old girl and everyone in her house knew that some terrorist types were in the village and were planning an attack on US forces.

In your opinion, is this justification for our forces entering the home and putting bullets in their head and chest (assuming those allegations are correct)?

If you do, can you think of a good reason to later claim they were killed by an IED?

[Paul Ross]

Do you have a link to that report? I read it, but can not find it right now.

Coming right up:

A reporter's shock at the Haditha allegations

[Velveeta]

I'll look for that CNN video, I haven't seen that one.

Here's a link to the one I did see.
Would you please check it and let me know if it's the same interview?

http://video.msn.com/v/en-gb/v.htm?g=4cb31255-619d-415c-a836-b9cdfcf9fc75

[SevenMinusOne]

I asserted the fact that this young girl openly (and on video) admits she knew an IED was planted and therefore didn't leave for school this morning. She knew there was an IED...if one understands the family structure of Iraqis they would easily know if this child knew of an IED outside their home...Her parents would most certainly know.

Furthermore if one understands the situation on the ground in Haditha it is also very well known that insurgents have found safe havens there - Plain and simple -

Now the MSM has tried to paint a picture over the last week that these victim's were completely innocent and had no reason whatsoever to get caught up in any of this situation.

I am clearly pointing out that is BS. This was a LOS IED (which means it was detonated within a short distance of where it went off and from a "safe zone") - These houses fall clearly into that category.

I now know that a child within these homes openly admits to knowing of said IED! - I also know another child has come up with 3 versions of her own truth -

I furthermore know that Marines are not actively out killing innocent Iraqi's....They are out there saving their lives..and giving theirs ....and/or risking their own lives hundreds of times a week.

Now does that mean a few of these Marines didn't go through the roof after this IED attack? No, it clearly looks as if they did (to the degree they went and was that justified is currently under investigation)....but the notion that these were all innocent victims who had no reason to be in this situation is utter BS! (They clearly knew an IED was planted....which puts them 100% involved).

[SevenMinusOne]

No that is not the video CNN World aired (though perhaps the same girl?) - This clearly shows people trying to edit (or telling her to reedit) what she says in her first video interview she gave to some human-rights group (which CNN paid them for). - In this video for CNN she clearly states she wasn't going to school that morning because she "knew a bomb was going to go off". It is during conversation and not as scripted as some of these other video's seem to be. In this video she is just talking and states she wasn't going to school because she knew of a bomb that was going to go off....the Human Rights group simply quickly changes the subject and says afterwords that she must be confused.

Again in this CNN video the reporter then opines that "perhaps it was a premonition"..."or perhaps she is suggesting more..that she knew of the IED beforehand".

Yeah, it was a premonition - Unbelievable that they even suggest such -

[Lead Moderator]

hmmmmm

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

What about it?

[CharlesWayneCT]

Maybe just a percussion device, to disorient them? Maybe somebody in the room fired a shot? Or yelled something that the marines thought was a command to attack?

Maybe the marines shot up a the level to kill standing combatants, not sitting non-combatants?

Remember, someone else posted here that the reason the Marine's story is doubted is that the dead had gunshot wounds, NOT shrapnel -- so it sounds like it wasn't a grenade that killed them, or someone's story is wrong.

[JFC]

WOW! Where did you come from... letme guess...could it be du?

[sinkspur]

Nah. Poobah and PaleWhiteHorse were on some of the same threads, many times.

Poohbah was not an ex-cop; he was ex-Marine, however.

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

Is that what he was saying?

Oh, good grief. I've met Poohbah. Agreed with him on a lot of things, but he's WAY too touchy to handle the Internet.

[highball]

reading it carefully, I think the writer took careful aim to make Tonys answer on tuesday appear to mean that Bush just learned of it on tuesday, WHICH CAN'T POSSIBLY BE TRUE UNLESS BUSH DOESN'T WATCH TEEVEE.

What's that great line from Goldeneye?

"Unlike the Americans, we prefer not to get our bad news from CNN."

[BeHoldAPaleHorse]

If Bush doesn't watch TV, he's probably smarter than most folks...

[sinkspur]

I believe that's what he/she was saying.

I screwed up your name, sorry about that.

[george76]

No matter what happened in Haditha - Murtha's still a coward

[Coop]

Almost 2,000 replies. Impressive, especially for an opus.

Or should I say "alleged" opus?

I personally think BeHold reminds me of another feller, kinda like Lenny from Law & Order, but without the tact. :-p