Radical Islam must be defeated - belief system makes deterrence mostly irrelevant

http://www.hudson.org/files/publications/Bar%20Ilan.pdf ^ | Laurent Murawiec

[croak]

Deterrence works because one is able credibly to threaten the center of gravity of the enemy: the threat of inflicting unacceptable losses upon him, whether in a bar brawl or in nuclear escalation. The calculus deterrence relies upon is: is it worth it? Is the Price/Earning Ratio of the contemplated action so hugely negative that it would wipe out the capital? Deterrence works if the price to be paid by the party to be deterred hugely exceeds his expected earnings. But deterrence only works if the enemy is able and willing to enter the same calculus. If the enemy plays by other rules and calculates by other means, he will not be deterred. There was nothing the Philistines could have done to deter Samson. If the calculus is: I exchange my worthless earthly life against the triumph of Allah on earth, and an eternity of bliss for me, if the enemy wishes to be dead, if to him the Apocalypse is desirable, he will not be deterred.

[Quix]

I think this is a very critical, key issue that needs screamed from the housetops until the pied piper blind and deaf MSM zombies wake up.

[EnigmaticAnomaly]

Agreed.

[Quix]

("Conservatives protect Americans from terrorists. Liberals protect terrorists from Americans.")

Love your tagline

[Kakaze]

This article has TOO many pertinant passages to even excerpt!

Its a must read, a book mark and something to be passed along everyday.

This is the face of who we are at war with.

[sneakers]

Don't have time to read it all but I've always thought that this is an enemy that can't be reasoned with. The only answer is that they need to be defeated - and defeated so completely that they will have no doubt of the futility of their efforts.

As long as our MSM, our government and our citizens, in general, don't realize this, the fight will go on as it has. Several days ago, I was talking to a shop-owner; dressed in civil war garb, at Gettysburg. Supposedly a very conservative man. He said that the Koran actually preached peace until the fanatics took over islam and distorted it. ?????? It scares me to think that people think this way! If we don't face the fact that this is NOT a religion of peace, that they want us to convert or die, this fight will go on a long, long time.

For God's sake! Wake up people!

[backhoe]

I have been covering, ( Or, as Seamole calls it...-backhoe's pseudoblog--... ) psuedo-blogging, for years, a couple of the elements in WWIV ( III being the Cold War ), in which we find ourselves engaged.

The first element?

Islam, a Religion of Peace®? ( links, blogs, quips, quotes, aggravating pictures ) is located here- click the Pic, and scroll backwards:

Does that "salute" remind you of the "followers of the broken cross?" It should...

The other, somewhat interlocking element is this one:

"Thunder on the Border," click the picture:

What is happening under the radar is that the alien lobby, certain elements of radical Islam, and some on the Left share common goals, tactics, and exploitations of our system and society.

Work backwards on my links to see all the shady left-wing and terrorist-enabling organizations backing this rubbish.

[billorites]

Speaking of screaming from the housetops, read the Margaret Talbot interview with Orianna Fallaci in the 6/5/2006 edition of New Yorker magazine entitled THE AGITATOR: Oriana Fallaci directs her fury toward Islam.

You will stand up and cheer.

[billorites]

A brief excerpt from the Fallaci interview:

Fallaci sees the threat of Islamic fundamentalism as a revival of the Fascism that she and her sisters grew up fighting. She told me, “I am convinced that the situation is politically substantially the same as in 1938, with the pact in Munich, when England and France did not understand a thing. With the Muslims, we have done the same thing.” She elaborated, in an e-mail, “Look at the Muslims: in Europe they go on with their chadors and their burkas and their djellabahs. They go on with the habits preached by the Koran, they go on with mistreating their wives and daughters. They refuse our culture, in short, and try to impose their culture, or so-called culture, on us. . . . I reject them, and this is not only my duty toward my culture. Toward my values, my principles, my civilization. It is not only my duty toward my Christian roots. It is my duty toward freedom and toward the freedom fighter I am since I was a little girl fighting as a partisan against Nazi-Fascism. Islamism is the new Nazi-Fascism. With Nazi-Fascism, no compromise is possible. No hypocritical tolerance. And those who do not understand this simple reality are feeding the suicide of the West.”

Fallaci refuses to recognize the limitations of this metaphor—say, the fact that Muslim immigration is not the same as an annexation by another state. And although European countries should indeed refuse to countenance certain cultural practices—polygamy, “honor killings,” and anti-Semitic teachings, for example—Fallaci tends to portray the worst practices of Islamic fundamentalists as representative of all Muslims. Certainly, European countries have made some foolish compromises in the name of placating Muslim residents. In Germany, where courts have ordered that Muslim religious instruction be offered in schools, just as Christian instruction is, critics have complained that the Islamic teaching often perpetuates a conservative version of Islam. The result, the historian Bernard Lewis argued, in a recent talk in Washington, is that “Islam as taught in Turkish schools is a sort of modernized, semi-secularized version of Islam, and Islam as taught in German schools is the full Wahhabi blast.” (This is a good reminder of why the American model of keeping religious instruction out of public schools facilitates assimilation.) Many of Fallaci’s objections, however, have more to do with her aesthetic sensibilities. For her, hearing Muslim prayers in Tuscany—she does her own wailing imitation—is a form of oppression. Yet such examples do not rise to the level of argument that she wants to make, which is that the native culture of Italy will collapse if Muslims keep immigrating.

“They live at our expense, because they’ve got schools, hospitals, everything,” she said at one point, beginning to shout. “And they want to build damn mosques everywhere.” She spoke of a new mosque and Islamic center planned for Colle di Val d’Elsa, near Siena. She vowed that it would not remain standing. “If I’m alive, I will go to my friends in Carrara—you know, where there is the marble. They are all anarchists. With them, I take the explosives. I make you juuump in the air. I blow it up! With the anarchists of Carrara. I do not want to see this mosque—it’s very near my house in Tuscany. I do not want to see a twenty-four-metre minaret in the landscape of Giotto. When I cannot even wear a cross or carry a Bible in their country! So I BLOW IT UP! ”

The magnificently rebellious Oriana Fallaci now cultivates, it seems, the prejudices of the petite bourgeoisie. She is opposed to abortion, unless she “were raped and made pregnant by a bin Laden or a Zarqawi.” She is fiercely opposed to gay marriage (“In the same way that the Muslims would like us all to become Muslims, they would like us all to become homosexuals”), and suspicious of immigration in general. The demonstrations by immigrants in the United States these past few months “disgust” her, especially when protesters displayed the Mexican flag. “I don’t love the Mexicans,” Fallaci said, invoking her nasty treatment at the hands of Mexican police in 1968. “If you hold a gun and say, ‘Choose who is worse between the Muslims and the Mexicans,’ I have a moment of hesitation. Then I choose the Muslims, because they have broken my balls.”

[Ronin]

Thanks for posting that.

It is definitely worth reading.

[shekkian]

Ping, then.

[butternut_squash_bisque]

muslims: want to kill us and take over America.

mexicans: want to take over America, and marginalize us.

Difference? 3°s of separation.

[Former Proud Canadian]

Great article, big bump

[cooldog]

Yes, yes, yes ... a thousand times yes.

This writer has articulated the position that I've finally come round to; the moment the words "Death to ....." emanate from a muslim mouth in a mosque ... that mosque and that mouth should become a recipient of the gift of paradise, perhaps delivered by way of a tungsten rod from orbit, or a Hellfire from a Global Hawk.

It is the only way to end their psycho-pathology.

My tagline was originally meant to convey the idea that there is a legal basis for outlawing islam itself, but unfortunately, some people might read into it an implication that we should deal with it as a criminal matter and by legal means. That's just useless.

I really need a new tagline ...

[Dinah Lord]

bookmark to savor later.

Thanks Croak.

[21stCenturion]

BTTT

[cb]

A lot of what he says applies to the socialists of the 20th century. His best point was the expression for them of autism! before this, I did not have a description of what it was like to talk to a dedicated socialist but autism comes very close. They cannot process any information which disturbs their world view.

We are beset with socialists, jihadists, democrats and now republicans. Very discouraging.

[Quix]

Thanks. Sounds good.

[Quix]

Wow.

She sure has understandably strong feelings.

Glad she's telling it like it is. Hope she has some impact on the body politic.

Thanks.

[Quix]

Actually, many Mexicans would be happy killing us, too.

They've been collecting guns etc. in AZ at LEAST since 1965, that I know of.