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You started this nonsense, intentionally I believe. I only add this final response because you claim to have "caught me and called me" on some point of attack that you have used to divert the discussion. BS. Also, I did not disparage you in any way. I only described the shoe. Whoever chooses to wear it is their business. I stand by my observation that I have not found any conservatism in your rhetoric. I have checked your posts and find that you identify yourself as a Republican first and Conservative second and that I find telling. Party before principal is something I have trouble with. It is precisely why we are in the current dilemma. Some here continue to harp that RINOs are better than Democrats. RINOs are not better than Conservatives whatever their party affiliation. IMO it should be the other way round. Principals should guide our actions not Party allegiance. We should be demanding of the party that it adhere to a set of core principles, (Conservative Principals) if they expect to hold our loyalty. You may continue your rant without me and I'll not respond further to unfounded accusations.