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To: Cold Heat
You started this nonsense, intentionally I believe. I only add this final response because you claim to have "caught me and called me" on some point of attack that you have used to divert the discussion. BS. Also, I did not disparage you in any way. I only described the shoe. Whoever chooses to wear it is their business. I stand by my observation that I have not found any conservatism in your rhetoric. I have checked your posts and find that you identify yourself as a Republican first and Conservative second and that I find telling. Party before principal is something I have trouble with. It is precisely why we are in the current dilemma. Some here continue to harp that RINOs are better than Democrats. RINOs are not better than Conservatives whatever their party affiliation. IMO it should be the other way round. Principals should guide our actions not Party allegiance. We should be demanding of the party that it adhere to a set of core principles, (Conservative Principals) if they expect to hold our loyalty. You may continue your rant without me and I'll not respond further to unfounded accusations.
127 posted on 06/10/2006 4:47:34 AM PDT by Les_Miserables
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To: Les_Miserables
I have checked your posts and find that you identify yourself as a Republican first and Conservative second and that I find telling.

Telling? Yes, I suppose it is...

It tells people that I support the republican party, with it's pimples and blemishes, because that is what a party supporter does.

If you cannot understand the concept, then you are a independent or confused.....whichever...

I find it amusing that party support is not tolerated by many conservatives. This is why the party is in trouble, unless and until it sheds it's detractors.

This process has occurred dozens of times in all political parties and will again. The left flank and the right flank are attempting a takeover of their respective parties that fails each and every time it is tried.

That's the meat of the matter, and why you are so irritated by my comments. You sense that you are not getting what you want or you are meeting too much resistance. You don't understand why.

You don't understand why because you don't understand what makes a political party work and what priorities they have, or you disagree with the order of those priorities.

The top priority is to win office, and how that is done is sometimes secondary as a matter of necessity and political reality.. Parties have few principles that cannot be compromised on, in the primary interest of winning elections. Those can be found in the platform and many are subject to change each and every cycle.

That is just the way it is. The way it has always been, and the way it will always be.

Because it must be so....

So yes, I am and have always been a Republican, as I will continue to be. Your comments about RINO's CINO's and my so called Conservative deficiencies in your eyes are irritating to me and many of the party faithful and will continue to draw my comments until the day a decision is made to either leave this site or the powers that be decide my contributions to the debate are worthless.

A Democrat is always the greater of the two evils.......Always! The primary is the time to dump or support any party politician. Never the general. In the general, you hold your nose and vote. Anything else will assure a Democrat win.

This is what parties do. If you don't agree then don't participate in a party. But don't try to assail the party because it failed to meet your expectations, because they never meet everyone's expectations. They are too big to be monogamous on any issue whatsoever.

My concern is that the baby will be thrown out with the bath water, and we are in real danger of doing exactly that. And like I said, it will not be my fault that it happens. ........if it happens... So I'm not conservative enough for you eh? So what! ......You will never make me think the way you do on any issue by the use of that kind of criticism. Never in a million years....

The only thing that stands in the way of a huge loss this year, is that the Democrats are even more screwed up than we are. Who ever gets their stuff together first will win in 08. That is the reality.

128 posted on 06/10/2006 2:32:59 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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