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Well......

Since we cannot stay on topic as you weave and squirm all over the place, I think it is time to end the exchange as well.

I'll leave this with one more observation that relates to my original point.

Standing back from the issues and the two major political parties, I see similar ailments in both.

Although I have seen this happen before, it was far more limited in scope.

The extremes of both parties, having traditionally battled each other, have not turned their venom on their own people. Just as you have done.

it does not surprise me that you cannot see what you are doing. I have made this point dozens, if not hundreds of times on this forum with the same results each and every time. Total myopia and a sort of unwillingness to be introspect in any way.

This has become a sickness and both the Democrats and Republicans are infected in the same exact way.

Traditionally, the extremes are much more reserved and tend to act in a prodding but respectful way toward their respective parties, saving their ammo for the other side.

Things have certainly changed.

I think it is because the Republicans have not yet learned how to be the party in power, and the Democrats have yet to accept that they are in a minority role. As a result, they both have created a sort of personality disorder that has made the political landscape a total free for all and has damaged the credibility of both parties.

I'm just trying to point out the truth of the matter, and I could care less who is more conservative or more liberal as it matters not.

But with you, it is the only thing that matters and that is just plain nuts....I'm sorry to say.

Carry on!

We may get what we are working for so diligently, minority status again by 2008.

I think it is because the Republicans have not yet learned how to be the party in power, and the Democrats have yet to accept that they are in a minority role.

At least we can agree on that.

But with you,...

Once again the personal disparagement...you are really something...just can't help yourself I suppose.

We may get what we are working for so diligently, minority status again by 2008.

Well, if this happens it will not be the fault of the Conservative base that put the GOP over the top and into power in the first place. It will clearly be the fault of those who fractured the party by aligning sharply with the left. But like Rumsfeld said, If you can't fix it, make it worse and that will demand an answer.......weave and dodge indeed....