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Rep. Peter King: Immigration Bill Is Dead
Newsmax ^ | 5/30/06

Posted on 05/30/2006 9:42:08 PM PDT by LdSentinal

As far as the powerful chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee is concerned, the controversial Senate bill on immigration reform is as dead as a duck.

Appearing Tuesday on "Lou Dobbs Tonight," Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., told Dobbs that he couldn’t imagine how the Senate bill "could ever be considered in the House of Representatives [when] the overwhelming majority of Republicans are against it.” This, he said "is amnesty. The more the senators deny it, Democrat and Republican, the more they deny it, the more the president denies it, it's amnesty. And the American people don't want it. I've never seen a disconnect between the will of the people and the actions of elected officials as we've seen in the Senate.

"And this is just a total disconnect, and as a Republican, our base is totally against it. But it goes beyond it; these are Reagan Republicans, and Democrats, independents, moderates -- across the board people are opposed. They want border security first.”

Commenting on Dobbs’ remark that Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., had described the Senate bill as the will of the Senate, King snapped: "The will of the Senate was not the will of the people. What really offends me about this is they say it has to be comprehensive, which means, on the one hand we have to protect the rights of the American people by having border security.

"On the other hand we have to protect the rights of illegal immigrants. So they are suggesting there's an equivalency between the rights of legal Americans and the rights of illegal immigrants, and you can't do both at the same time. So they are trying to balance the two, and when you do that, you're never going to get border security. After 20 years of promises, we don't have border security. There's no reason to think we're going to get it now unless we focus all our at attention on that.”

When Dobbs asked if it is possible four and a half years after 9/11 "for this White House to comprehend, for that Senate to comprehend, there are about 280 million Americans out here who deserve protection at their ports and at their borders and that the people are sick and tired. They've had a belly full of the nonsense. They want the borders secured. They want the ports secured, and really don't want to hear any more about free trade and impediments to commerce.”

Said King: "You're right, it's almost now, almost five years since Sept. 11. And border security is homeland security. Our world changed on Sept. 11. If there was ever the luxury of looking the other way on illegal immigration, it ended on Sept. 11. We have to secure the border, not just for economic and cultural and social reasons, we have to secure it to preserve our security, our homeland security.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; bill; cira; congress; dobbs; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; king; peter
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To: claudiustg

The old adage goes people are more impressed with our sincerity if we act on our beliefs than if we merely talk about them.


41 posted on 05/30/2006 11:07:12 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Vincit Omnia Vertas- translation:Truth Conquers All.)
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To: LdSentinal

Well, finally a voice of reason in a cacophony of dissonance in the ILLEGAL CRIMINAL INVASION OF AMERICA. The fact that it is coming from a RhINO makes it even better. We are watching HISTORY in the making, either the crossroads of the END of the REpublican Party or the beginning of return to REPUBLICAN ROOTS.


42 posted on 05/30/2006 11:07:48 PM PDT by contrarian (BUILD A WALL AND THROW THE REPUBLICAN ELITES OVER IT.)
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To: Soul Seeker
Don't get too excited yet. This isn't over, not by a long shot. I expect the battle to go on for at least the summer on this legislation alone. Even if we win this battle, it still doesn't secure the borders and it still doesn't stop the amnesty crowd from trying to wear us down and sneak it in other legislation.

Quite right. This is the first battle in a very long war.
43 posted on 05/30/2006 11:12:24 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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To: Old_Mil

Bump


44 posted on 05/30/2006 11:14:03 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Vincit Omnia Vertas- translation:Truth Conquers All.)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican

"I've never seen....."

Born yesterday?
I recall seeing similar disconnects MANY times!
And will no doubt see many more.


45 posted on 05/30/2006 11:14:38 PM PDT by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: Lancey Howard

Indeed.....

BORDER SECURITY FIRST !!!!


46 posted on 05/30/2006 11:25:07 PM PDT by cowdog77
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To: LdSentinal

Forgive me if I don't hold my breath over this issue. The CAFTA debacle proved to me that last minute/strong arm tactics should never be taken for granted...


47 posted on 05/31/2006 12:02:09 AM PDT by Ex-expromissor (Know Your Enemy)
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To: upchuck

"In their comments as to why they voted no, not one of them said anything even close to, "My constituents elected me to the Senate because I promised to do their will. I listened to my constituents and that's why I voted against the bill.""


U.S. Senator Tom Coburn, M.D. (R-OK)

"The American people have been demanding that their elected officials take action to limit illegal immigration first by securing our borders, then by addressing guest worker reform. Unfortunately, this bill reversed those priorities. Rewarding illegal immigrants with amnesty without taking adequate steps to secure our borders is the wrong way to address this problem,” Dr. Coburn said.

It is important for Congress to understand that the public will not trust us on this issue until our borders are secure."

Thats close enough for me.


48 posted on 05/31/2006 12:04:23 AM PDT by loboinok (Gun control is, hitting what you aim at!)
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To: RunningWolf
In fact I think we can start to see the numbers of illegals crossing to drop dramatically this summer.

I hope you are right, but I don't believe that will be the case, I was talking to a Border Patrol Agent the other night, he said many of the illegals he catches are saying, "I am here for the amnesty." He said when he tells them there is no amnesty, they don't believe him. That tells me that the flow probably won't decrease, if anything it may increase.

49 posted on 05/31/2006 12:13:32 AM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
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To: no dems

Do you recall which particular polls those were?


50 posted on 05/31/2006 1:11:15 AM PDT by gaussia
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

They better get it damn soon.

He's right. This "Will of the Senate" crap is totally offensive to the vast majority of American voters and a price is definitely going to be paid at the ballot box for any RINO who thinks he's going to skate on this.


51 posted on 05/31/2006 1:18:38 AM PDT by Ronin (Ut iusta esse, lex noblis severus necesse est.)
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To: no dems


Tonight on "The O'Reilly Factor" Bill O. showed polls that say 75% of Americans support the Senate-type bill and only 25% don't. Most Americans when asked: Should Illegal Immigrants, who are currently in the U.S., be given a chance to earn citizenship? They will say "yes"

"That's because 80% of the American public DO NOT KNOW what is included in the Senate bill."


52 posted on 05/31/2006 3:34:44 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: Renegade
"That's because 80% of the American public DO NOT KNOW what is included in the Senate bill."

At over 600 pages, last I heard, neither does most of the Senate I'll wager.

53 posted on 05/31/2006 3:36:37 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: FreeReign

That was in 1998. For Peter King EVERYTHING changed after September 11...he's been speaking out about border security ever since then.


54 posted on 05/31/2006 3:47:06 AM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve.)
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To: LdSentinal
Wow! For a NY Republican, King really gets it!

And we are always told that NY pubbies are closer in ideology to the Beast Clinton than Ronald Reagan, I'm glad theres at least one left that thinks like a Conservative!

55 posted on 05/31/2006 3:51:23 AM PDT by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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To: mewzilla
" At over 600 pages, last I heard, neither does most of the Senate I'll wager'

All the senate knows is that the demographics show hispanics will eventually decide eelections here, if current trends continue.

Rather than slow those trends down and try to assimilate those who could immigrate legally, the senate will fall all over itself to open the door wide for those they hope will vote for them. It's sickening.

As for how much of the 600 pages the senators read, thats only usually the title page, the poll results and their personal amendments to make sure they have lined their pockets and the lobbist that own them.

56 posted on 05/31/2006 3:52:47 AM PDT by Kakaze (American: a Citizen of the United States of America........not just some resident of said continent)
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To: upchuck

S. 2611 (Comprehensive Immigration Reform Act of 2006 )

Grouped By Vote Position

YEAs ---62

Akaka (D-HI)
Baucus (D-MT)
Bayh (D-IN)
Bennett (R-UT)
Biden (D-DE)
Bingaman (D-NM)
Boxer (D-CA)
Brownback (R-KS)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carper (D-DE)
Chafee (R-RI)
Clinton (D-NY)
Coleman (R-MN)
Collins (R-ME)
Conrad (D-ND)
Craig (R-ID)
Dayton (D-MN)
DeWine (R-OH)
Dodd (D-CT)
Domenici (R-NM)
Durbin (D-IL)
Feingold (D-WI)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Frist (R-TN)
Graham (R-SC)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hagel (R-NE)
Harkin (D-IA)
Inouye (D-HI)
Jeffords (I-VT)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kennedy (D-MA)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Leahy (D-VT)
Levin (D-MI)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Lugar (R-IN)
Martinez (R-FL)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Menendez (D-NJ)
Mikulski (D-MD)
Murkowski (R-AK)
Murray (D-WA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Obama (D-IL)
Pryor (D-AR)
Reed (D-RI)
Reid (D-NV)
Sarbanes (D-MD)
Schumer (D-NY)
Smith (R-OR)
Snowe (R-ME)
Specter (R-PA)
Stevens (R-AK)
Voinovich (R-OH)
Warner (R-VA)
Wyden (D-OR)

NAYs ---36

Alexander (R-TN)
Allard (R-CO)
Allen (R-VA)
Bond (R-MO)
Bunning (R-KY)
Burns (R-MT)
Burr (R-NC)
Byrd (D-WV)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Dole (R-NC)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Ensign (R-NV)
Enzi (R-WY)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hatch (R-UT)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Kyl (R-AZ)
Lott (R-MS)
Nelson (D-NE)
Roberts (R-KS)
Santorum (R-PA)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Stabenow (D-MI)
Sununu (R-NH)
Talent (R-MO)
Thomas (R-WY)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)

Not Voting - 2

Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)


57 posted on 05/31/2006 3:55:34 AM PDT by zeebee
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To: pawdoggie

If I lived in Pete King's district, I would actually vote for him, having seen this. I disagree with him about a lot of things, but this stand alone makes him worth it!


58 posted on 05/31/2006 4:18:41 AM PDT by jebeier
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To: LdSentinal
Immigration Bill Is Dead

Well that tears it. It'll pass.

59 posted on 05/31/2006 4:22:30 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Echo Talon
That why its better to vote for a RINO than a rat any day. At least sometimes the RINO will vote with you.

BTTT

60 posted on 05/31/2006 4:24:06 AM PDT by PGalt
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