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Rep. Peter King: Immigration Bill Is Dead
Newsmax ^ | 5/30/06

Posted on 05/30/2006 9:42:08 PM PDT by LdSentinal

As far as the powerful chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee is concerned, the controversial Senate bill on immigration reform is as dead as a duck.

Appearing Tuesday on "Lou Dobbs Tonight," Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., told Dobbs that he couldn’t imagine how the Senate bill "could ever be considered in the House of Representatives [when] the overwhelming majority of Republicans are against it.” This, he said "is amnesty. The more the senators deny it, Democrat and Republican, the more they deny it, the more the president denies it, it's amnesty. And the American people don't want it. I've never seen a disconnect between the will of the people and the actions of elected officials as we've seen in the Senate.

"And this is just a total disconnect, and as a Republican, our base is totally against it. But it goes beyond it; these are Reagan Republicans, and Democrats, independents, moderates -- across the board people are opposed. They want border security first.”

Commenting on Dobbs’ remark that Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., had described the Senate bill as the will of the Senate, King snapped: "The will of the Senate was not the will of the people. What really offends me about this is they say it has to be comprehensive, which means, on the one hand we have to protect the rights of the American people by having border security.

"On the other hand we have to protect the rights of illegal immigrants. So they are suggesting there's an equivalency between the rights of legal Americans and the rights of illegal immigrants, and you can't do both at the same time. So they are trying to balance the two, and when you do that, you're never going to get border security. After 20 years of promises, we don't have border security. There's no reason to think we're going to get it now unless we focus all our at attention on that.”

When Dobbs asked if it is possible four and a half years after 9/11 "for this White House to comprehend, for that Senate to comprehend, there are about 280 million Americans out here who deserve protection at their ports and at their borders and that the people are sick and tired. They've had a belly full of the nonsense. They want the borders secured. They want the ports secured, and really don't want to hear any more about free trade and impediments to commerce.”

Said King: "You're right, it's almost now, almost five years since Sept. 11. And border security is homeland security. Our world changed on Sept. 11. If there was ever the luxury of looking the other way on illegal immigration, it ended on Sept. 11. We have to secure the border, not just for economic and cultural and social reasons, we have to secure it to preserve our security, our homeland security.”


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 109th; aliens; amnesty; bill; cira; congress; dobbs; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigrantlist; immigration; king; peter
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To: no dems

If you are refering to the GOP poll ordered by the admin, that is push polling at finest by amnesty advocates of this administration.

It's bogus.


21 posted on 05/30/2006 10:10:01 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Deport the United States Senate)
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To: RunningWolf

"But it looks to be more and more like our representative government is going to work this time, hallelujah!"

Interesting how an election every 2 years (for House members) focuses their attention on the will of the voters.

Maybe we need to require Senators to run for re-election every 2 years, as well.


22 posted on 05/30/2006 10:11:39 PM PDT by nj26 (Border Security=Homeland Security... Put Our Military on the Border! (Proud2BNRA))
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To: RunningWolf

Don't get too excited yet.

This isn't over, not by a long shot. I expect the battle to go on for at least the summer on this legislation alone. Even if we win this battle, it still doesn't secure the borders and it still doesn't stop the amnesty crowd from trying to wear us down and sneak it in other legislation.


23 posted on 05/30/2006 10:12:15 PM PDT by Soul Seeker (Deport the United States Senate)
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To: LdSentinal
This, he said "is amnesty. The more the senators deny it, Democrat and Republican, the more they deny it, the more the president denies it, it's amnesty. And the American people don't want it. I've never seen a disconnect between the will of the people and the actions of elected officials as we've seen in the Senate.

Link

King was a big fan of amnesty back in '98.

24 posted on 05/30/2006 10:17:19 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: RunningWolf

Peter King for President


25 posted on 05/30/2006 10:19:27 PM PDT by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: no dems

Kay Bailey Hutchinson reported on Lou Dobbs last week that communications to her office were running around 1800 against to less than 20 for the Senate bill. I assume that anyone who communicates with their elected officeholders are beyond likely voters, but almost certain voters. Communications to elected officeholders may not be scientific but should count for more than spinmeister polling. Of course, voters should have more representation than illegals which is evidently not the case for a President , Rinos and Democrats.


26 posted on 05/30/2006 10:19:29 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: no dems

I think that the vast majority of Americans have an entirely different view of what it should take for an illegal to "earn" citizenship than does the average US Senator. A poll question that offers the choice between a slammed door and one opened just a crack might eleicit such a reply, but a poll question that offered a choice between a door opened just a crack and one thrown wide open ala the US Senate's version would give an entirely different result.


27 posted on 05/30/2006 10:21:54 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: LdSentinal
Commenting on Dobbs’ remark that Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., had described the Senate bill as the will of the Senate, King snapped: "The will of the Senate was not the will of the people.

Amen Rep. King!

There's a thread tonight with comments by the Senators who DID NOT vote for the amnesty bill.

While I appreciate them voting no, there's a real disconnect. In their comments as to why they voted no, not one of them said anything even close to, "My constituents elected me to the Senate because I promised to do their will. I listened to my constituents and that's why I voted against the bill."

How disappointing.

28 posted on 05/30/2006 10:22:42 PM PDT by upchuck (Wikipedia.com - the most unbelievable web site in the world.)
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To: pawdoggie
[ For a "moderate" who's sometimes referred to as a "RINO" in these parts, Peter King has definitely hung tough in this matter. ]

It don't take a genious to see that Amnesty insures 20 plus million new propective democrats insuring republican minority status for God knows how long.. UNLESS if THAT is what YOU WANTED.. (i.e the White House)

29 posted on 05/30/2006 10:24:30 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Soul Seeker
I hear you, but Peter King is right on and only an idiot will try to push amnesty now unless they cloak it as something else.

And do not discount the message it sends on many levels. In fact I think we can start to see the numbers of illegals crossing to drop dramatically this summer.

The people employng the illegals aren't stupid either, they will see the see change and who wants to be caught with pants down when its pay up$$ time?

Wolf
30 posted on 05/30/2006 10:26:02 PM PDT by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: upchuck
While I appreciate them voting no, there's a real disconnect. In their comments as to why they voted no, not one of them said anything even close to, "My constituents elected me to the Senate because I promised to do their will. I listened to my constituents and that's why I voted against the bill." How disappointing.

Let me see if I have this straight.

You're criticizing senators who voted "no" on this?

31 posted on 05/30/2006 10:26:08 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign
You're criticizing senators who voted "no" on this?

They ain't called "unappeasables" for nothing.

32 posted on 05/30/2006 10:27:56 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: LdSentinal

Call me cynical, but this is the word of a single man. He still needs to corral 230 Republicans(some of whom like CIRA). There are still many more battles that needs to be fought before CIRA is in the asheap of bad legislation.


33 posted on 05/30/2006 10:29:02 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Vincit Omnia Vertas- translation:Truth Conquers All.)
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To: Lib-Lickers 2
Peter King for President

Free Sports Illustrated subscriptions for everyone!

34 posted on 05/30/2006 10:29:57 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Conservatism is moderate, it is the center, it is the middle of the road)
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To: LdSentinal
On the other hand we have to protect the rights of illegal immigrants.

And what rights would those be? Our constitution grants rights to lawful CITIZENS, NOT illegals.

35 posted on 05/30/2006 10:30:04 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: no dems

Well what happened to all the polls that showed the overwhelming majority of Americans favored the House Bill over the Senate Bill?

Could it be that because O'Reilly favors amnesty that he would push a like-minded poll on his program? Afterall he's only looking out for us.


36 posted on 05/30/2006 10:35:04 PM PDT by whatisthetruth
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To: no dems

The problem is I've seen polls all over the map on this... Dobbs keeps saying the Senate is against the will of the people but there are plenty of polls saying a majority supports the Senate bill. Go figure.


37 posted on 05/30/2006 10:42:23 PM PDT by ruschpa
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To: whatisthetruth

Dobbs pushes his own poll. Both O'Reilly and Dobbs only show polls that support their view.


38 posted on 05/30/2006 10:43:19 PM PDT by ruschpa
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To: Soul Seeker

The battles are just beginning.


39 posted on 05/30/2006 10:44:57 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Vincit Omnia Vertas- translation:Truth Conquers All.)
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To: LdSentinal

Funny how being up for election in a few months clarifies the vision.


40 posted on 05/30/2006 10:47:50 PM PDT by claudiustg (¡En español, por favor!)
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